I sure hate to see some get so lathered up over someone's seat in a saddle.

We gathered/sorted calves the last two days for a cutting in town. Close to 700 of them. They lease the calves every year. I rode with my seat, my stirrups, legs, torso, and brain. The funny thing is near as I can tell what we did to get these calves ready has almost no comparison to how they ride at the cuttings.

Most of those cutters couldn't ride outside of the arena. I'm not knocking them but cutting, rodoes, and most of the other events have become so specialized they bear little resemblence to riding in the outside world.

I've never tried the crooked stirrups. I ride 5'' bells. I get lots of support and good grip. And I couldn't force my boot all the way through if I wanted.