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I saw this one on an obscure bid site. I put a max bid of $400 on it and logged off; to my surprise, I ended up winning the bid. It is an 1899 Takedown in 30-30. Description said 20" barrel and SN 1391xx. I think it is a 1899H. Help me ID it for sure and let me know what you think. With buyer premium, shipping and FFL at this end, I'll have about $525 into it.

Hoping for some good news from the group to use in preparing my speach to my wife. grin

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Has the lever been blued?


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Perhaps you mean 3911xx instead of 13911xx, in that case it appears to be a later 1930's model "F", but not late enough for checkering.

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The front sight isn't right, guessing it's a cutdown 1899A or 1899A SR, or swapped barrel. Pull the buttplate, if there is just the one circular hole for the bolt it's an 1899 or 1899A SR with shotgun buttplate. If there is more wood removed, it's an 1899H. Also check serial number on buttplate to see if it's original or replacement.


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Serial on the tag is 139,xxx.


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Originally Posted by Calhoun
Serial on the tag is 139,xxx.


Good catch on that!


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Originally Posted by Calhoun
Serial on the tag is 139,xxx.

Yup, I had one extra 1 when I typed above; fixed that, SN 1391xx

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I'll guess that it is an early 1899F (straight stock profile not perchbelly), perhaps with an early 1899H barrel. That front sight is how they looked on the early H's. Perhaps too they were using up leftover early barrels on somewhat later rifles. All in all $400 is a darned good price. Too bad about the add-on costs driving it up so high. I would've jumped on it like a duck on a June bug.

I hope the bore is nice. Lever looks like the typically oxidized levers on so many from that era whose case colors have faded away.


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Yeah, I missed that it doesn't have a perch belly. That confuses things a lot with that serial number.


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Looks like a gooder 2 me!


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Here are some links to some other early 1899Hs I scrounged up to compare stocks and front sight.

Rifle 1, 1912, 130215 www.rockislandauction.com/viewitem/aid/58/lid/83
Rifle 2 http://www.gunsamerica.com/906193616/49o-SAVAGE-1899H-CARBINE-TAKE-DOWN-22HP.htm
Rifle 3, 145xxx, 20” www.rugerforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=217486
Rifle 4, 124550 www.cabelas.com/product/Savage-Model-H-Win/1660784.uts
Rifle 5, 1912, 126xxx http://www.gunauction.com/buy/10532686

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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
I'll guess that it is an early 1899F (straight stock profile not perchbelly), perhaps with an early 1899H barrel. That front sight is how they looked on the early H's. Perhaps too they were using up leftover early barrels on somewhat later rifles. All in all $400 is a darned good price. Too bad about the add-on costs driving it up so high. I would've jumped on it like a duck on a June bug.

I hope the bore is nice. Lever looks like the typically oxidized levers on so many from that era whose case colors have faded away.


But the early F started in 1920 and the SN on this one would be 1912 or 1913.

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Originally Posted by Calhoun
Yeah, I missed that it doesn't have a perch belly. That confuses things a lot with that serial number.


That's why I said I guess it's a very early F or very late H. I too would like a peak under the butt plate to see what its serial number is. Could be a swapped out stock, too.


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Originally Posted by KeithNyst
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
I'll guess that it is an early 1899F (straight stock profile not perchbelly), perhaps with an early 1899H barrel. That front sight is how they looked on the early H's. Perhaps too they were using up leftover early barrels on somewhat later rifles. All in all $400 is a darned good price. Too bad about the add-on costs driving it up so high. I would've jumped on it like a duck on a June bug.

I hope the bore is nice. Lever looks like the typically oxidized levers on so many from that era whose case colors have faded away.


But the early F started in 1920 and the SN on this one would be 1912 or 1913.


Far too late of a number for that time period, no?


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Heh, figured if I spoke up on the front sight I'd end up wrong. grin


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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
I'll guess that it is an early 1899F (straight stock profile not perchbelly), perhaps with an early 1899H barrel. That front sight is how they looked on the early H's. Perhaps too they were using up leftover early barrels on somewhat later rifles. All in all $400 is a darned good price. Too bad about the add-on costs driving it up so high. I would've jumped on it like a duck on a June bug.

I hope the bore is nice. Lever looks like the typically oxidized levers on so many from that era whose case colors have faded away.


But the early F started in 1920 and the SN on this one would be 1912 or 1913.


Far too late of a number for that time period, no?


SN on this rifle is 1391xx. Murrey shows 1912 ended around 131,000, 1913 around 146,500, 1919 ended around 212,000.

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Yep, you (and Murray) are right. I'm home now and I looked at the "newest" H I have, 147,xxx and it lettered as being finished November, 1913 and shipped February, 1914. Sometimes my mind is like a steel sieve. ( Coulda been the Sailor Jerry rum wrestling with my synapses, too! 'Tis the human condition, I fear.)

Still and all, if the better half challenges your decision to buy this fine piece of American sporting history, send her (or him) to us and we'll set things right! Burp.


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Let's put this one on hold until it arrives at your door. Then signal us what all the numbers say (receiver, buttplate and hind end of butt stock.) We'll continue critiquing it then. (Or wait and see what John Callahan says, hint hint.)


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Originally Posted by 21
Perhaps you mean 3911xx instead of 1391[b1[/b]xx, in that case it appears to be a later 1930's model "F", but not late enough for checkering.


take out your added 1 and it's the right number , front sight is from that era ,, nice gun Keith you did well, looks proper.

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