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Somebody was asking about what the barrels are made of...don't know if this helps or not.  ![[Linked Image]](http://www.laruetactical.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_detail/stealth_5-56_barrel_10.jpg)
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too funny! maybe Iconel steel however.
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no it doesn't help . LaRue stakes their reputation on mystery steel. Personally, i would never pay their price for their products. They stay in business based on their advertising and people who have never owned a AR Rifle. If you have money to waste, then you are their Huckleberry.
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quick google shows rearden steel as a light but strong really new steel.
Maybe they are trying to see how it goes.
Seems like honesty is still lost.
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no it doesn't help . LaRue stakes their reputation on mystery steel. Personally, i would never pay their price for their products. They stay in business based on their advertising and people who have never owned a AR Rifle. If you have money to waste, then you are their Huckleberry. Mystery steel aside, I've found their prices to be on par with other quality parts. Even bought their mount and optic combo's cheaper than others wanted for optics alone. And I have to ask, what exactly are these people who've never owned an AR doing with the stuff they buy? I don't have money to waste so I buy quality the first time. I'll leave the Crapco gear for others. And yes, I am your Huckleberry.
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You are the type that keeps them in business. I just don't understand how anyone can pay a high price for a unknown product and the person you are buying from refuses to let you in on what he is selling you. Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
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There is nothing wrong with keeping La Rue in business.
Different folks handle things differently.
No big deal really.
Me, I won't waste my money except where I know I need to buy the best, and sometimes thats a name, and sometimes its not.
Like buying John Burns though, if you want the best of something ready to roll without work, then yoy have to go Wilson, or La Rue or the like.
Some I know even feel the need to have a big name, just because, keeping up with the Jones etc..... Their money and thats fine. Doesn't impress me in the least though.
And this is no shot at anyone here but some others I know... had they bought RRA or evne Model 1 Sales, guns, they would be shooting just the same size groups as their knights, Larues,wilsons etc....They could have bought more ammo and practiced more. LOL
The way I view something like La Rue is, you pay top dollar, to get the reliability of a factory Colt, but with great accuracy to boot. You will pay for that most of the time, and dearly, but if it works, then it works!
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TWR, I just examined a new LaRue stealth upper, a guy was selling it here near Atlanta, it was 6 plus pounds and $1050 USA dollars. I could not see much of the barrel under the 13 inch quad rail however it is my impression that the finish both inside and out is melonite. I base this on the inside of the barrel being as black as the outside of the barrel. I did not take it because of the weight. I don't mind giving LaRue money and I will be giving him more when I get this 6.8 built for another LT-104. He makes a quality product, and as far as I can see they have gone the way of AAC, AR precision with the melonite. Which is a good thing in my book. That they are stupidly secretive is a mark against them in many a book including mine. However if I had caught the sale for $199 I would not be as upset that he is a secretive nut case....them grapes is sour anyway.... 
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The only real advantage of Big Name Products it will aid you greatly if you decide to resell the product. I have never said the LaRue isn't a great product I'm sure it is, i just don't like people who refuse to be up front about their produce.
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The big names are also generally as accurate as one you piece together to get to an accurate gun. Though I admit I"m much pickier about accuracy than most with an AR
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My goal is i put function and accuracy as the primary function of all the rifles i own, especially my AR's
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Rearden Steel is a imaginary company that figures in Ayn Rands 1957 novel "Atlas Shrugged", which is a very popular book about the coming ills of a socialist/fascist US government. It is popular with those in the conservative movement. I believe the stamp on the barrel relates to the statement the book makes, rather than the steel used, although to those not familiar with the book such a statement would not be understood. Atlas Shrugged is a 1957 novel by Ayn Rand. Rand's fourth and last novel, it was also her longest, and the one she considered to be her magnum opus in the realm of fiction writing.[1] Atlas Shrugged includes elements of science fiction,[2] mystery, and romance,[3][4][5] and it contains Rand's most extensive statement of Objectivism in any of her works of fiction.
The book depicts a dystopian United States, wherein many of society's most prominent and successful industrialists abandon their fortunes and the nation itself, in response to aggressive new regulations, whereupon most vital industries collapse. The title is a reference to Atlas, a Titan described in the novel as "the giant who holds the world on his shoulders". The significance of this reference appears in a conversation between the characters Francisco d'Anconia and Hank Rearden, in which d'Anconia asks Rearden what advice he would give Atlas upon seeing that "the greater [the titan's] effort, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders". With Rearden unable to answer, d'Anconia gives his own response: "To shrug".
The theme of Atlas Shrugged, as Rand described it, is "the role of man's mind in existence". The book explores a number of philosophical themes from which Rand would subsequently develop Objectivism.[6][7] In doing so, it expresses the advocacy of reason, individualism, capitalism, and the failures of governmental coercion.
Atlas Shrugged received largely negative reviews after its 1957 publication, but achieved enduring popularity and consistent sales in the following decades.[8]
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if that is not a photoshopped image, them more power to Mark LaRue, makes me more likely to get one as I did read that book. On the other hand it does appear to be a black barrel with a black interior.
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I have been told they are treated SS probably melonite but I've not even seen one yet. I do tend to listen to those that actually own them than those that just hate Mark LaRue.
See if I ever pass along another sale...
I certainly didn't know $199 was overpriced for an MOA guaranteed light weight barrel, who knew?
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I have been told they are treated SS probably melonite but I've not even seen one yet. I do tend to listen to those that actually own them than those that just hate Mark LaRue.
See if I ever pass along another sale...
I certainly didn't know $199 was overpriced for an MOA guaranteed light weight barrel, who knew? It wasn't my intentions to step on your toes , plus i don't hate LaRue , i just don't agree with his secret business principles.
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I have been told they are treated SS probably melonite but I've not even seen one yet. I do tend to listen to those that actually own them than those that just hate Mark LaRue.
See if I ever pass along another sale...
I certainly didn't know $199 was overpriced for an MOA guaranteed light weight barrel, who knew? Dead horse I know... but if you KNOW they are SS why won't they just say it. Or say proprietary or SS treated by a method similar to X but we won't divulge etc... I"m always leery when the answer to a customers question is a smart azz remark That being said if I had need of a tube right then I'd have tried one too.
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Rearden Steel is a imaginary company that figures in Ayn Rands 1957 novel "Atlas Shrugged", which is a very popular book about the coming ills of a socialist/fascist US government. It is popular with those in the conservative movement. I believe the stamp on the barrel relates to the statement the book makes, rather than the steel used, although to those not familiar with the book such a statement would not be understood. Atlas Shrugged is a 1957 novel by Ayn Rand. Rand's fourth and last novel, it was also her longest, and the one she considered to be her magnum opus in the realm of fiction writing.[1] Atlas Shrugged includes elements of science fiction,[2] mystery, and romance,[3][4][5] and it contains Rand's most extensive statement of Objectivism in any of her works of fiction.
The book depicts a dystopian United States, wherein many of society's most prominent and successful industrialists abandon their fortunes and the nation itself, in response to aggressive new regulations, whereupon most vital industries collapse. The title is a reference to Atlas, a Titan described in the novel as "the giant who holds the world on his shoulders". The significance of this reference appears in a conversation between the characters Francisco d'Anconia and Hank Rearden, in which d'Anconia asks Rearden what advice he would give Atlas upon seeing that "the greater [the titan's] effort, the heavier the world bore down on his shoulders". With Rearden unable to answer, d'Anconia gives his own response: "To shrug".
The theme of Atlas Shrugged, as Rand described it, is "the role of man's mind in existence". The book explores a number of philosophical themes from which Rand would subsequently develop Objectivism.[6][7] In doing so, it expresses the advocacy of reason, individualism, capitalism, and the failures of governmental coercion.
Atlas Shrugged received largely negative reviews after its 1957 publication, but achieved enduring popularity and consistent sales in the following decades.[8] I saw remarks to such in a quick search but also found some stuff from early 2015 indicating a new quenching method or such coming up with a new lighter metal. I didn't have time to follow it all out though, so the photo-shop joke is on me. Got it.
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Anyone buy two of them that wants to sell one let me know.
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You are the type that keeps them in business. I just don't understand how anyone can pay a high price for a unknown product and the person you are buying from refuses to let you in on what he is selling you. Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Wow. It seems that you are against LaRue products, or maybe it's just the barrels, because he will not tell you about his "secret" barrel material or process. The LaRue fans seem to buy his product because they work, are accurate and the company has a reputation for backing up their product. That is a blueprint describing a privately owned, successful AR manufacturing business. I have no problem not knowing about the metal or process. I, like you, demand function and accuracy from any rifle because they are tools. Some that I have owned did not meet that standard. Obviously there are people that respectfully disagree with your stance. You can certainly boycott a company for whatever reasons, and that is your prerogative. "Merica", ain't she great!
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I saw remarks to such in a quick search but also found some stuff from early 2015 indicating a new quenching method or such coming up with a new lighter metal.
I didn't have time to follow it all out though, so the photo-shop joke is on me. Got it. Not a joke on you at all, Jeff. I was just saying this is what I believe that stamp relates to. Before I posted my question about the steel, I did a bit of googling to see what I could find out without asking, if possible. When I did, I ran into the same picture another poster put up with the Rearden Steel logo and pursued that to the end I reported. So if it was on you, it was on me, too. Just as Rearden Steel is a tongue in cheek, a "I'm smarter than you", kind of a thing (at least that's how it appears to me), so seems to be their customer service in dealing with simple questions like barrel steel. Too often, the more successful some people become, the more difficult they become. That's harder to accept within an industry like firearms, which is typically thought of as more close knit and ready to help. Maybe they really do have a new unique process and want to protect it. Who knows? I'm expecting their barrels to be at least as good as any other $200 barrel I might buy, and maybe a little better. I probably can't expect much more than that, but I'll still hope for a little more.
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