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I ordered one from the Co. two weeks ago. It's one that was ready to go. Still have not received it so after several calls to Sharps Rifle I do think I have all worked out. Supposed to ship today. Some was my fault, most was FFL's fault, he didn't put my order, name or anything on the FFL copy, no cover sheet or anything according to Sharps, so they didn't know what order the FFL was for. Took almost two weeks for me to figure out all. Lady I talked to seemed to know what was going on, I bet it ships today and I get it for sure on Thursday. Makes me happy, ready for it and the learning process to start.
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Congrats Gordon, you getting a .45-70?
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Yes a 45/70. Looking forward to this one. Going to sit here and get the rifle before ordering anything for it. The proper stuff, BP I think I can get some within 30 miles of here. Bullets, will order BP lead, may have some brass, if it's not a special brass I do have a 45/70 lever smokeless rifle, so think I should or may have some on a bench shelve somewhere, will look. Dies, have some for the lever 45/70 hope they are OK for this one. Primers, can't find any of the I think it's 215M or 250 cci. Wads, none on order, guess I'll go with what Sharps has for now, going to have to learn a lot to go paper, so will wait on that for a while.
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I found some 215's, surprisingly enough at a Gander Mtn. You making it to Quemado? I can bring some for you.
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Thanks, but not heading that way. I'll go to Gander out here maybe tomorrow. Didn't even think to check them. Sounds each year like a good one out in western NM, but real close to the family vacation time.
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So Pat I went to Gander mountain, guess what they had. Thanks for the tip. Rest will have to come out of that place in Missouri looks like.
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The black powder Model 1874 Metallic Cartridge Rifle is in my house.
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Thanks Miles, I plan on it. Going to be a learning process for sure.
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Pics or it didn't happen 😁
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Pics or it didn't happen 😁 I don't or have not studied up on posting pics. My photobucket account has 36,000 pictures. They changed it and I have trouble finding the pic I want. I'll get it together someday and erase about 35,000 pics. of the deer lease and deer. Just the same old pics over and over. I'm kind of a computer dummy. I am way before the computer age, was not raised on them like so many others. That clear me for a while?
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Fine, be that way! I just love looking at Shiloh's! You can always email them to me and I can post them if you would like. pacecars hotmail.com
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OK, but need to take them on the phone first.
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Alright pacecars-- pics. sent as of 4:05pm or so.
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Well just sent two more one large size and one small. If that doesn't work, phone number is the only other way that has always worked for me.
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Here it is in all its glory! Love the 1/2 round barrel
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Is that the "heavy 1/2" profile?
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Yes Sir it is. Will see how it shoots one day. Going to take time to find all I need. Brass ordered, BP after tues when Seller gets the ATF form, primers not going to be hard to find, wad out of leather, just need to locate the Lyman 457125's or learn quick like to cast the bullets. Other then that I think she will shoot just fine. Thanks very much for the picture post.
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Expensive score. But a very nice fit and finish. Were are going to get several of us together one day just to shoot.
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Velcome to der Darkside!! You ain't gonna believe how much fun a Sharps is and just how awesome a critter killer they are!!
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Leather?? You don't cut the wads out of leather. You cut them out of wax paper with a LEATHER PUNCH.
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Good luck, have fun making lots of smoke and kill a few critters while you're at it..
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There is a group on here that learned the secret. Going to be lots of fun learning the passwords. Plan to shoot a lot.
Will have to look towards a buffalo in the future someday. That would be a bucket list item for sure. Thanks to all for putting that want in me.
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Told you me hearing wasn't that good. I do have a little extra leather now I feel. Tandy's was nice, they sell whatever you bring up to the counter.
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Good luck, have fun making lots of smoke and kill a few critters while you're at it.. Thank you. I have watched you guys for several years do this with a Sharps, going to smoke them out at the Range and in the field. Will take it deer hunting for sure, then maybe a buffalo hunt.
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This may not be as easy as I thought.
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Morning Bill.
Going to work out for sure. I promise. Getting me in a large loud group is where the hearing fails, just too much sound for these old ears. I'm just excited to finally own such a nice rifle. I will do whatever the teacher says. Weaknesses can be cured by such a person.
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That is a very nice rifle. We'll get you up and running, no sweat. I can probably use the leather, BTW.
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Alright, I'll get the leather to you, just scraps that Tandy sells. Cow and a little deer hide.
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I was astonished that the local Gander still had 5 boxes of Federal 215's. So I shamelessly cleaned them out
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Pat bet they will get some more in the future.
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You're gonna have a blast with this WTXJ, many fun things to learn, Oh, and it wont be your last one either.
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Your correct on the fun and learning. More than one------------
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And trainloads of wonderment cured when you put a mild velocitied heavy bullet through six feet of critter too.
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Great looking rifle, Gordon! We'll have to have a shoot someday soon. I happen to know a place... Bill will take good care of you, for sure. E.T. has gotten a bunch of us afflicted with the "Holy Black Syndrome" and Bill makes sure we have the proper treatment regimen to keep us going. Ed
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Thank you Ed, the rifle is nice. Looking forward to a little cooler weather and curing some tech. issues then just loading and shooting. Have the time so might as well use it shooting that fine rifle. Don't think I'll wear it out any time soon.
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The black powder Model 1874 Metallic Cartridge Rifle is in my house. Thanks for sharing. I like the pics.
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Gordon??? You still having fun???? Rifle looks like a dandy!!! Oldest son's Shiloh should be delivered today!!! You two guys should get together!!!! Shoot hogs! Pretend they are buffalo!!!! I think he got the Montana Roughriger???
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The black powder Model 1874 Metallic Cartridge Rifle is in my house. Thanks for sharing. I like the pics. Without pacecar might not be any pic. Thanks guy.
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Gordon??? You still having fun???? Rifle looks like a dandy!!! Oldest son's Shiloh should be delivered today!!! You two guys should get together!!!! Shoot hogs! Pretend they are buffalo!!!! I think he got the Montana Roughriger??? He buy it off of the wall like I did? 45/70? We need pics. We do need to shoot a hog, would be fun. I think more Texans need these rifles.
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Yeah! One they had on the sight. He saw about 40 hogs he said last night on the place. That constitutes a herd of Pygmy buffalo!!!! But I don't think they are just gonna stand there and let y'all rip off about 4 or 5! LOL!
45/70! Gonna try to get enough shooting done with it on time to take it to Colorado in October.
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You still get along with that oldest son? Ask him if you can shoot it a few times. (Evil Twin Smile)
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Gordon! I'm his favorite dad!!!!
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You still get along with that oldest son? Ask him if you can shoot it a few times. (Evil Twin Smile) happy ta help!!
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cooling off a bit now...might have to dust off my .45-90
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Flyboy Flem: Re, picture you posted on 7/3.Is that a leather strap around the barrel to help control recoil? Or, what???????
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Time for a little up date on The Rifle, my Sharps.
Very interesting, the learning curve. Of course just starting that curve. Read and read on the how. I had never loaded any BP cartridge. Learned how to do a basic load. Loaded 8 rounds and took the rifle to the range and shot them just to see and hear the Sharps. It worked fine. Came home and loaded another 26 rounds and a few days later took it back to the range for another session. Had fun, 26 rounds does push me and my shoulder. Trying to learn the buckhorn sights on this rifle. Managed the last 4 rounds just on the black target. Was happy with that. Iron sights do push these old eyes. Reloaded 27 rounds over a few days, got tied up this last weekend so on Tuesday back out to the range. Remember it's hot out here. Lucky to have some shade to shoot under at the range. This time, at the range, shot 19 rounds when I guess the pain of a 45/70 off a bench got to me. Ended the day at 19 shot rounds. 11 of 19 were in the target. Not small mind you but I'm just happy to land on target. Target is I guess about one foot circle. This is at 100 yards. Making progress.
Have to rest the shoulder for an up coming dove hunt then back to the bench. As soon as I get tired of 100 yards will move over to the 250 yards and start over on the learning.
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Sounds like you're getting the hang of it and also how to pace yourself with the number of rounds out as they approach your pain threshold. My first close encounter was via my 45/110, loaded 50 rds of 520 gr Gov't greasers over 95 grs of 2F then off to the range.The following morning thought I had gone 15 with Joe Frazier. .... The bench also enjoys adding its two cents to the recoil/pain equation so now all load testing and fun shooting is strictly off sticks as this is my hunting SOP...
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OHHHHH yeah, ya gotsa have buffler sticks. Defangs even the BIG guns quite effectively!!
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Yes on the sticks for sure. Takes a lot of felt recoil out when standing, sitting etc. Standing or sitting size? What do you guys think.
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Thanks Evil Twin. Think I'll get the sharps set. Nice pic. You know him?
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Gordon, what weight bullets you shooting? Some of the 400-440 grain models will kick a little less than the 500's, and still shoot well. Did you ever shot this one?
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Never have shot that one Pat.
Shooting a 500 gr. I just need not to shoot quite so much at a sitting and need to get off the bench. Rifle range only have benches, none of the standing or shooting behind a bench. This one does have an area where you can lay down and shoot prone so when the sitting sticks come in I may be able to get away with sitting and my pad. We will see. If that doesn't work I'll go out to the farm area and set something up out there. I do like the shade at this time of the year. No shade at farm and it's a lot further.
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Hey Gordon,
Run over to Academy and get you one of them fold up awning things for the farm place! Instant shade!!! I think they are on sale for end of summer deal.
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Good idea Bob. Had a brand new one last April. Just took it out of the box at Eds place. Two hours later it was destroyed by nature. So was Houston Pats, his big one. May still go get another one, we will see.
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Gordon, what weight bullets you shooting? Some of the 400-440 grain models will kick a little less than the 500's, and still shoot well. Did you ever shot this one? I did and it was sweet...
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Get that head down Somuch for follow through. That ain't me Kurt, that is my youngest Brother! I warned him (it is an original 45/110) But as the man said "Some men ya just can't reach!!"
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I don't think this is too bad a time to bring up a mossy old BPCR homily,..."The Law of diminishing Returns"
Given bullets of equal WEIGHT,.....and of the same caliber, and driving em' with Black Powder,....at a certain point one achieves absolutely NO more velocity, and just starts inducing more violent recoil.
Inarguable and proven fact, this.
I've been amused and somewhat baffled at the insistence in mind numbing , body wrenching, abusive recoil, for a LONG time.
STAY with heavy bullets,....just back off on your charge weights a bit, ....and enjoy life.
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I did get in a little rush this last time Greg. Not going to rush quite like that in the future. I bought so many of the 500 grain bullets, yes Sir I will be using them for a while. Just going to slow down between shots. I'm not in a competition but the weather was hot. So I was rushing things just to see how the rifle handled strings of shot with just the blow tube. Rifle did fine, OP started whining . Not really loading that much powder, less than I started with by 10 grains. Part of the learning process. Wish I had discovered BPCR rifles a long time ago like so many on the campfire.
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Pard,IMHO the 45's seem to come into their own with bullets of 500g or better. The Old Dead Guys and Sharps Rifle Co. stated that heavy bullets and heavy charges were the recipe for long range shooting. You ain't totally skrewed yet!! Wait'll me and the boys get ya blasting paper patched slugs!!!!
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I don't feel like I'll get REAL longer ranges accuracy with anything much less than a 500 +,.... my 440 grain Leeth "Chicken Bullet" starts spreading em' at ranges over 300 M.
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I did get in a little rush this last time Greg. Not going to rush quite like that in the future. I bought so many of the 500 grain bullets, yes Sir I will be using them for a while. Just going to slow down between shots. I'm not in a competition but the weather was hot. So I was rushing things just to see how the rifle handled strings of shot with just the blow tube. Rifle did fine, OP started whining . Not really loading that much powder, less than I started with by 10 grains. Part of the learning process. Wish I had discovered BPCR rifles a long time ago like so many on the campfire. I didn't see it mentioned and you probably are using filler, but there can be no air space when shooting black, or it will cause dangerous pressure spikes.
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That's a pic for the ages reminds me of a similar event with a 44/90 in an Iowa bean field! Your new shades were never meant to see Wyoming now were they? OTOH they were sacrificed for some serious laughter.
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Just blew water through my nose!!! My mental instant replay works good
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Just blew water through my nose!!! My mental instant replay works good At least after looking at the clouds I managed to hang on to your rifle!
You better be afraid of a ghost!!
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