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Government simply allowing it's people to live beyond their means and not earn their keep. Socialism at it's finest.
Coming to a country near you.....
well yeah. but most well-paid urbanites and suburbanites have no clue. such subjects weren't taught in gov't schools, so how could they possibly know? it's not their fault.] if the Urth was about four (4) times it's current size, the existing human population distributed across various failed, and not yet failed countries might have a chance at sustainability. if Greece does become a failed State, we will add them to the existing list of failed states. so what's the problem, exactly? Don't know about Urth but if my planet (Earth) was 4 times larger, gravity would make everyone shorter, slower, and weaker since everything would be heavier. Also, 55 grainers out of my .223 Ackley Improved would be slower, and drop 4x faster making those slow Prarie Dogs harder to hit. It would suck. 
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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If everyone had to fight 4x the gravity from birth, wouldn't that make them stronger?
Stupidity is expensive
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!
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Greece is a total socialist mess. The EU demands a value added tax be imposed and pensions be cut which are crippling the government. The Greek government pays out 26% of their GDP in pensions every year. That is 26% of the GDP not the annual budget!!! That should give some idea of the amount spent on pensions that are insupportable.
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If everyone had to fight 4x the gravity from birth, wouldn't that make them stronger? We'd have denser bones and a stronger heart, but there are limits to what our skelatal muscles will adapt to. Stronger but proportionally not enough to fight the difference. It would be a World in which White men REALLY couldn't jump.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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Pay attention--
Greece is what Obama and his cronies want the US to become ......and they're going to succeed beyond their wildest dreams..
Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69
Pro-Constitution.
LET'S GO BRANDON!!!
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Fuggi tall, they all just print money anyway. "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?" 
Islam is a terrorist organization.
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The EU will cave and continue to do so, until there is nothing left to keep the dominoes standing all over Europe.
Hunt with Class and Classics
Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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I can hear the printing presses warming up now amidst the cries of "monetize the debt".
In short, they'll be forced to inflate their way out of the problem, making the money worth less so the debts are easier to repay. And it will happen here too. My guess is our next president will have to deal with raging inflation at some point during their first term.
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I can hear the printing presses warming up now amidst the cries of "monetize the debt".
In short, they'll be forced to inflate their way out of the problem, making the money worth less so the debts are easier to repay. And it will happen here too. My guess is our next president will have to deal with raging inflation at some point during their first term. They can't just print Euros, or they would have already. The biggest problem with a Euro-based economy for tin-can socialist nations like Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain and the like is they have now lazy populations who are used to long vacations, short workdays and workweeks with low productivity. Greece is the first domino. They can't survive standing indefinitely. Germany pretty much controls the Euro, and the Greeks and Germans hate each other.
Hunt with Class and Classics
Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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I can hear the printing presses warming up now amidst the cries of "monetize the debt".
In short, they'll be forced to inflate their way out of the problem, making the money worth less so the debts are easier to repay. And it will happen here too. My guess is our next president will have to deal with raging inflation at some point during their first term. Greece can't. The Germans control the printing presses. If Greece wants to inflate their way out, they will have to drop out of the Euro.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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This situation interests me because in 3 weeks I'll be in Greece on vacation. We booked a tour months ago and it's too late to back out now. We are wondering if we'll have difficulty accessing money after hearing about ATM limiting funds and banks closed. We're going to take more Euros with us than we initially planned. Hopefully they are still accepting them then. It'll be an adventure, just not sure it'll be an enjoyable one. Banks are closed. They will open on Thursday, but only to cash pension checks. Current ATM withdrawals are limited to 60 Euro's per day.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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We're gonna 'import' about ten million and put 'em on welfare and Obammycare!!
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