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From an adult who was raised by homosexuals.

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/04/14899/
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A Warning from Canada: Same-Sex Marriage Erodes Fundamental Rights
by Dawn Stefanowicz
within Foreign Affairs, Marriage

April 24th, 2015

Americans need to understand that the endgame of the LGBT rights movement involves centralized state power—and the end of First Amendment freedoms.

I am one of six adult children of gay parents who recently filed amicus briefs with the US Supreme Court, asking the Court to respect the authority of citizens to keep the original definition of marriage: a union between one man and one woman to the exclusion of all others, so that children may know and may be raised by their biological parents. I also live in Canada, where same-sex marriage was federally mandated in 2005.

I am the daughter of a gay father who died of AIDS. I described my experiences in my book: Out From Under: The Impact of Homosexual Parenting. Over fifty adult children who were raised by LGBT parents have communicated with me and share my concerns about same-sex marriage and parenting. Many of us struggle with our own sexuality and sense of gender because of the influences in our household environments growing up.

We have great compassion for people who struggle with their sexuality and gender identity—not animosity. And we love our parents. Yet, when we go public with our stories, we often face ostracism, silencing, and threats.

I want to warn America to expect severe erosion of First Amendment freedoms if the US Supreme Court mandates same-sex marriage. The consequences have played out in Canada for ten years now, and they are truly Orwellian in nature and scope.

Canada’s Lessons

In Canada, freedoms of speech, press, religion, and association have suffered greatly due to government pressure. The debate over same-sex marriage that is taking place in the United States could not legally exist in Canada today. Because of legal restrictions on speech, if you say or write anything considered “homophobic” (including, by definition, anything questioning same-sex marriage), you could face discipline, termination of employment, or prosecution by the government.

Why do police prosecute speech under the guise of eliminating “hate speech” when there are existing legal remedies and criminal protections against slander, defamation, threats, and assault that equally apply to all Americans? Hate-crime-like policies using the terms “sexual orientation” and “gender identity” create unequal protections in law, whereby protected groups receive more legal protection than other groups.

Having witnessed how mob hysteria in Indiana caused the legislature to back-track on a Religious Freedom Restoration Act, many Americans are beginning to understand that some activists on the Left want to usher in state control over every institution and freedom. In this scheme, personal autonomy and freedom of expression become nothing more than pipe dreams, and children become commodified.

Children are not commodities that can be justifiably severed from their natural parentage and traded between unrelated adults. Children in same-sex households will often deny their grief and pretend they don’t miss a biological parent, feeling pressured to speak positively due to the politics surrounding LGBT households. However, when children lose either of their biological parents because of death, divorce, adoption, or artificial reproductive technology, they experience a painful void. It is the same for us when our gay parent brings his or her same-sex partner(s) into our lives. Their partner(s) can never replace our missing biological parent.

The State as Ultimate Arbiter of Parenthood

Over and over, we are told that “permitting same-sex couples access to the designation of marriage will not deprive anyone of any rights.” That is a lie.

When same-sex marriage was legalized in Canada in 2005, parenting was immediately redefined. Canada’s gay marriage law, Bill C-38, included a provision to erase the term “natural parent” and replace it across the board with gender-neutral “legal parent” in federal law. Now all children only have “legal parents,” as defined by the state. By legally erasing biological parenthood in this way, the state ignores children’s foremost right: their immutable, intrinsic yearning to know and be raised by their own biological parents.

Mothers and fathers bring unique and complementary gifts to their children. Contrary to the logic of same-sex marriage, the gender of parents matters for the healthy development of children. We know, for example, that the majority of incarcerated men did not have their fathers in the home. Fathers by their nature secure identity, instill direction, provide discipline, boundaries, and risk-taking adventures, and set lifelong examples for children. But fathers cannot nurture children in the womb or give birth to and breast-feed babies. Mothers nurture children in unique and beneficial ways that cannot be duplicated by fathers.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that men and women are anatomically, biologically, physiologically, psychologically, hormonally, and neurologically different from each other. These unique differences provide lifelong benefits to children that cannot be duplicated by same-gender “legal” parents acting out different gender roles or attempting to substitute for the missing male or female role model in the home.

In effect, same-sex marriage not only deprives children of their own rights to natural parentage, it gives the state the power to override the autonomy of biological parents, which means parental rights are usurped by the government.

Hate Tribunals Are Coming

In Canada, it is considered discriminatory to say that marriage is between a man and a woman or that every child should know and be raised by his or her biological married parents. It is not just politically incorrect in Canada to say so; you can be saddled with tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees, fined, and forced to take sensitivity training.

Anyone who is offended by something you have said or written can make a complaint to the Human Rights Commissions and Tribunals. In Canada, these organizations police speech, penalizing citizens for any expression deemed in opposition to particular sexual behaviors or protected groups identified under “sexual orientation.” It takes only one complaint against a person to be brought before the tribunal, costing the defendant tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees. The commissions have the power to enter private residences and remove all items pertinent to their investigations, checking for hate speech.

The plaintiff making the complaint has his legal fees completely paid for by the government. Not so the defendant. Even if the defendant is found innocent, he cannot recover his legal costs. If he is found guilty, he must pay fines to the person(s) who brought forth the complaint.

If your beliefs, values, and political opinions are different from the state’s, you risk losing your professional license, job, or business, and even your children. Look no further than the Lev Tahor Sect, an Orthodox Jewish sect. Many members, who had been involved in a bitter custody battle with child protection services, began leaving Chatham, Ontario, for Guatemala in March 2014, to escape prosecution for their religious faith, which conflicted with the Province’s guidelines for religious education. Of the two hundred sect members, only half a dozen families remain in Chatham.

Parents can expect state interference when it comes to moral values, parenting, and education—and not just in school. The state has access into your home to supervise you as the parent, to judge your suitability. And if the state doesn’t like what you are teaching your children, the state will attempt to remove them from your home.

Teachers cannot make comments in their social networks, write letters to editors, publicly debate, or vote according to their own conscience on their own time. They can be disciplined or lose any chance of tenure. They can be required at a bureaucrat’s whim to take re-education classes or sensitivity training, or be fired for thinking politically incorrect thoughts.

When same-sex marriage was created in Canada, gender-neutral language became legally mandated. Newspeak proclaims that it is discriminatory to assume a human being is male or female, or heterosexual. So, to be inclusive, special non-gender-specific language is being used in media, government, workplaces, and especially schools to avoid appearing ignorant, homophobic, or discriminatory. A special curriculum is being used in many schools to teach students how to use proper gender-neutral language. Unbeknownst to many parents, use of gender terms to describe husband and wife, father and mother, Mother’s Day and Father’s Day, and “he” and “she” is being steadily eradicated in Canadian schools.

Which Is More Important: Sexual Autonomy or the First Amendment?

Recently, an American professor who was anonymously interviewed for the American Conservative questioned whether sexual autonomy is going to cost you your freedoms: “We are now at the point, he said, at which it is legitimate to ask if sexual autonomy is more important than the First Amendment?”

Under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, Canadian citizens were supposed to have been guaranteed: (1) freedom of conscience and religion; (2) freedom of thought, belief, opinion, and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; (3) freedom of peaceful assembly; and (4) freedom of association. In reality, all of these freedoms have been curtailed with the legalization of same-sex marriage.

Wedding planners, rental halls, bed and breakfast owners, florists, photographers, and bakers have already seen their freedoms eroded, conscience rights ignored, and religious freedoms trampled in Canada. But this is not just about the wedding industry. Anybody who owns a business may not legally permit his or her conscience to inform business practices or decisions if those decisions are not in line with the tribunals’ decisions and the government’s sexual orientation and gender identity non-discrimination laws. In the end, this means that the state basically dictates whether and how citizens may express themselves.

Freedom to assemble and speak freely about man-woman marriage, family, and sexuality is now restricted. Most faith communities have become “politically correct” to avoid fines and loss of charitable status. Canadian media are restricted by the Canadian Radio, Television, and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC), which is similar to the FCC. If the media air anything considered discriminatory, broadcasting licenses can be revoked, and “human rights bodies” can charge fines and restrict future airings.

An example of legally curtailed speech regarding homosexuality in Canada involves the case of Bill Whatcott, who was arrested for hate speech in April 2014 after distributing pamphlets that were critical of homosexuality. Whether or not you agree with what he says, you should be aghast at this state-sanctioned gagging. Books, DVDs, and other materials can also be confiscated at the Canadian border if the materials are deemed “hateful.”

Americans need to prepare for the same sort of surveillance-society in America if the Supreme Court rules to ban marriage as a male-female institution. It means that no matter what you believe, the government will be free to regulate your speech, your writing, your associations, and whether or not you may express your conscience. Americans also need to understand that the endgame for some in the LGBT rights movement involves centralized state power—and the end of First Amendment freedoms.

Dawn Stefanowicz is an internationally recognized speaker and author. She is a member of the Testimonial Committee of the International Children’s Rights Institute. Her book, Out From Under: The Impact of Homosexual Parenting, is available at http://www.dawnstefanowicz.org. Dawn, a full-time licensed accountant, is married and has two teenaged children.


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Bump. That was a good read.


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Businesses can say no to gays with their price.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Businesses can say no to gays with their price.


No chance. If someone were to charge gays more for a service that would be discrimination. There are public accommodation laws that deal with this and if you are dealing with a protected class you are liable. Gays are not yet a protected class but probably will be soon.

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These will be times that sorely test men. If you aren't willing to give up everything - your money, your house, your family, for the truth, we will all live as slaves.


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Liberalism borders on communism... they certainly follow Marxist Doctrine, which only has a goal of convincing the public that they need to be controlled, by essentially those that are considered the socialist elite....

once again, it is where a small part of a population with their only attribute is having a big mouth, force their desires on the rest of the population, to accept their little concepts of their utopia...

The only dumb thing is, are the masses that blindly listen to these people....and are too stupid or lazy to see it...

Homos and Lesbians make up less than 3 % of the population... but yet the other 97% is suppose to disavow over 2000 years of Christian beliefs on the subject, for the 3%'s conveniences...

Obama Care is another example....

90% of the nation's healthcare population is supposed to be revamped, so that the lowest 10% can have 'access' to health care.... which these people already get anyway for free... but in getting the public to believe that this law is good for ALL Americans ( which is a propaganda statement at best), the public in general is lead to believe that the Government taking over and controlling health care will be good for everyone....

and how many of the public blindly believe it?

Liberalism is played out in the children's story of Long Ago...

"The King's New Clothes"...


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I want to warn America to expect severe erosion of First Amendment freedoms ......
"Expect"??? Oh, we're THERE now..



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this is nothing really that new. this country has been in trouble a long, long time. and we all knew it, yet we elected the likes of Johnson,carter, clintn and certain others, including the current one.

a lot of it has been really really bad. but, now it's beginning to wash up on our front door steps.

it sounds like we are being ask to reap what we sow.

and besides, Jesus nevr said much about marriage. but he did say he had come to fulfill the law, and the old testament allowed all kinds of marriage related stuff.


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Jesus and his Apostles spoke of it, Gus. Considering that we only have about a 20 hour read out of 30 something years of His life, I'm sure he said a lot more about it.
http://www.caintv.com/a-detailed-explanation-of-why


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well, all I'm sayin is that it's not all one man/one woman stuff. there was a lot of sexual slavery, polymy, etc. back in the day. Jesus said the law was to manifest.

so, I don't know know that homo's were looked upon acceptably, since there were few humans. but the goal was to multiply and subdue the Urth. I think we have, don't you?

nowadays, we don't need so many breeders walking among us. it's not good for the health of the eco-system. grin


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Kids raised in a household with out morals end up confussed at best

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You could replace "same sex parents" in the article with "divorced parents" and it would read the same.

I actually agree with the premise of the article, but it's a logical spaghetti bowl.


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Originally Posted by Gus
nowadays, we don't need so many breeders walking among us. it's not good for the health of the eco-system. grin


Someone has to raise the baby cockroaches, now don't they Gus?

Who better than these matched pairs?


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The homo wedding cards are already on shelves.

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every time the liberals want something it's "for the children"


from gun control to welfare


but yet they deny a child the right to either a father or mother all to easily.


sorta like their cheer that "black lives matter" unless of course it's the unborn or blacks killing blacks, then it turns out they don't matter so much


liberal hypocrisy, it's everywhere you look


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Sign on my shop wall:

"I support self sex marriage. GFY."


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Originally Posted by jimone
Sign on my shop wall:

"I support self sex marriage. GFY."


SIG LINE!!! grin


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Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
every time the liberals want something it's "for the children"


from gun control to welfare


but yet they deny a child the right to either a father or mother all to easily.


sorta like their cheer that "black lives matter" unless of course it's the unborn or blacks killing blacks, then it turns out they don't matter so much


liberal hypocrisy, it's everywhere you look



So many black babies wind up in a toilet or a dumpster and the ho mama winds up back on the street turning $2 tricks to support her crack habit.


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[quote=seal_billy]I expect to see f a g gots kissing at the store while I have my kids there shopping for school cloths.... I won't hold my tounge. [/quotas they won't GAF.


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