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There was that thread over at 1911forum.com, surveying owners of different pistols about reliability in the first 200 rounds. IIRC, the best 1911 mfr's were Wilson and Baer, with 12% & 13% failures, respectively. Glock slightly edged Wilson, by maybe 1%. So for the sake of argument they were essentially the same as Glock. H&K beat everybody, with only about 4% failures.


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Originally Posted by johnw
Originally Posted by T LEE
The biggest cause of the 1911 platform is amateurs trying to tweak the sear/disconnector/grip safety spring for a lighter trigger pull. It is critical to performance that it be in balance. Especially the sear engagement, a bit too lite and the hammer following the slide syndrome and full auto firing are the result. The next is the sear-hammer engagement surfaces, they need to be as parallel as possible, smooth faces with sharp edges.

The 1911 was designed to be rugged and reliable, when folks get to tinkering without the proper tools, equipment and skill bad things happen.

The other problem is feeding of ammo other than ball in older guns, the barrel ramp must have the proper geometry for reliable feeding of semi-wadcutter and HP ammo. The older guns have steeper ramp than the more modern iterations and tends to jam non ball ammo against the top of the chamber. This modification MUST be approached with great caution if foe no other reason than too much material removal leads to dangerous unsupported case heads. A KB from the chamber and break grips and magazines along with hand injuries.

Now don't take my word for it as I have only worked on and/or accurized a few hundred of them and built several "race" guns in my life! smile smile smile


TLee,

The RIA that I carry these days is extremely reliable with all sorts of ammo, from all weights of HP to very old french surplus ball, and also the CCI shotshell.
They call it their gov't model. Is it's ramp configured differently than what the U.S. military 1911s were?


Most newer 1911's are factory ramped and throated for the more aggressive bullet configurations out there, they are not set up like the old JMB design as he was designing for military ball ammo.. It is the subtle differences that make them ammo friendly without diminishing accuracy or function, this is a good thing. The "Government Model" designation usually denotes the cosmetics and appearance. MIL-SPEC would denote original configuration of design parameters.


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by 41magfan
A quality 1911 that's properly set-up and fed good ammo from good magazines, is as durable and reliable as any platform out there.



Why doesn't that statement raise red flags

i always here how superior 1911s are--once they are set up as outlined above

But a Glock that goes from box to holster an will shoot a few thousand rounds with nary a problem is "tupperware junk"


Glad we could raise your awareness level...

Note that the 1911 malfunctions discussed here are 100% due to user modifications to firing mechanism.


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by 41magfan
A quality 1911 that's properly set-up and fed good ammo from good magazines, is as durable and reliable as any platform out there.



Why doesn't that statement raise red flags

i always here how superior 1911s are--once they are set up as outlined above

But a Glock that goes from box to holster an will shoot a few thousand rounds with nary a problem is "tupperware junk"


Paid $499 for my RIA and it has yet to fail to do everything asked of it.


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I have worn out a few 1911s, failures are not common.rio7

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