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Rick to me this one looks "right" pict 16
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=491800002

when did that jack sight come out?


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My only earlier 1899 carbine is a 38-55. I has a crowned barrel but it's not as obvious as the 1895 due to the thinness of the barrel.


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Good job finding that one. Not many SRC's to be had. I think one would stand a better chance at finding a hen with teeth. Congratulations.


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I sure tickled but broke. I won't be adding any more to the collection for a while.


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LBK how about a few pictures of yours? Is there an accurate number on how many of the 1895's were carbines? I wonder how many muskets? 28" barrels? 30" barrels? Were there any longer than 30? And what about the trials rifles? The 1895 is a deep subject.


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Here are photos of the documentation that came with the 1895. The letter is pretty interesting.
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Very interesting information!

I can maybe help out in one regard. Rice-Lewis Co. is probably Rice, Lewis & Son hardware from Toronto. Here is a page from their 1898 catalog:

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The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”.
All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered.
Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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The carbine was purchased from "Bing" no more than 35 miles from the Toronto "Rice-Lewis" hardware store location where it was originally sold in 1899.
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Originally Posted by ctw
LBK how about a few pictures of yours? Is there an accurate number on how many of the 1895's were carbines? I wonder how many muskets? 28" barrels? 30" barrels? Were there any longer than 30? And what about the trials rifles? The 1895 is a deep subject.


Here ya go........

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That's pretty darn good circumstantial evidence.
Thanks for the pics, LBK. I can think of only 3 other 1895 carbines I've seen.


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Thank You yours still has the 1895 bolt, what is the barrel length on yours? Did you letter it and when did it ship? I know a lot of questions.
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David the info on your rifle is amazing! I am looking forward to your book.
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Originally Posted by ctw
LBK how about a few pictures of yours? Is there an accurate number on how many of the 1895's were carbines? I wonder how many muskets? 28" barrels? 30" barrels? Were there any longer than 30? And what about the trials rifles? The 1895 is a deep subject.


I have a few over 400 1895's in my data (observed, reported and from log sheets). The last review I did was at a 355 sample size and found as follows:
Qty % Aprx qty of 5000
Carbines 20 5.6% 281.7
1895-A 132 37.2% 1859.2
1895-B 137 38.6% 1929.6
1895-C 60 16.9% 845.1
1895-D 6 1.7% 84.5
Total 355 100% 5000.0

Note that sampling is not truly random and I used a total production of 5000 units. Numbers should only be used to give a general picture of what was produced.

In my data I have 5 ea. 30" and 3 ea. 28".

Roe reported 96 muskets and 4 military carbines (?) shipped to the trials. Four of these muskets have turned up. It appears that at least some part of the trial guns were returned to Savage, modified and sold.

I have only seen 2 muskets that were not part of the trial and they were early production guns.

Plus we have a recent find of 2 documented Short Rifles that were not know to have been produced.

Given the small quantity of 1895's produced it is a model that we should be able to gather a fair picture of what was produced. If you have purchased, lettered or seen an 1895 that I might not have in my data I would appreciate you sending me a PM on it so I can add to the data.





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Thanks Rick, that's great data. PM sent on my other two 1895's.


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Originally Posted by ctw
Thank You yours still has the 1895 bolt, what is the barrel length on yours? Did you letter it and when did it ship? I know a lot of questions.
Thanks Chris



It has a 22" rnd barrel. Yes, there is a letter but it came with the gun when I acquired it. Regrettably, the line in the ledger is blank showing nothing but the serial number. It is almost center in a block of carbines. Seial number is 47XX. VERY close to David's gun.


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