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Or 6-47 Lapua

I think it would be .270 130 grain as it would do everything from gophers to elk with the right construction.

Most for the least?

About a decade ago, you can look it up, I got hold of a software package at work. It was a super-duper Optimizer add-on for Excel called Evolver. They wanted me to test it out. I got the bright idea of downloading a large part of Hodgdon's reloading database and then asked the Optimizer to basically find the best bang for the least amount of recoil.

One of the problems was what measurement of "bang" was best for my needs. I used a version of the Taylor TKO that favored sectional density called the Bekker KOV, The important feature of this experiment was that I took all the MAX load and then let the Optimizer take up to 8% of the MAX in doing its calculations, much like any reloader would.

The results were interesting:

Eeeets Alive Pt I

Eeeets Alive Pt II

Based on what I found, I did not mean to send everyone out to buy a .280 REM, or for that matter the 6.5X55 Swede. Rather, it suggested to me:



It also bolstered my belief that slightly-off-MAX loads deliver a lot of punch with much less recoil.

Physics, statistics, and Excel is how this mess got started. Every combination has its own set of concessions and the importance (or lack of) is up to the guy yanking the trigger. Across the SA chamberings, 260 won for ME everytime, and 7 RM is my thumper of choice. Albeit it the newbie in the rack and will probably see the least use. But 162 Amax at 3,000 FPS does give some warm and fuzzy....

The .260 has to be a strong contender.

That said, while the .308 probably is not the best in any single category, Every game animal I have hunted, from coyotes to elk seems to tip over dead.

For an all around practical rig, a lightweight .308 with a high quality piece of glass and good sling is really hard to beat from my experience.

9.3x62 topped off with a 250 grn TTSX loaded to 60k

On the contrary I don't believe 16 tries to hard at anything. This schit comes easy to folks like 16.

Are you here to take notes apply same and learn...........Hint.....or is simply grabbing the 30/06 your only move.....Re-Hint

Please tell us all about the one rifle you've always had....all the places you've almost taken it......

Thank you for the vagina monolog you've provided us with and we feverishly await your next installment of how to lick windows while applying vagisil.

Please we are laughing so hard right now!

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How'd I do?

Shod

I'm surprised more people aren't thinking like this - with recoil involved per the OP. I'm thinking something like this or a 22br w/ 77s/6br w/ 105s.

280 Remington and the 150 Partition.
Here is why:
+ more than good enough for what most of us do (heck it is just an improvement on the 270 AND the 30-06)
+ most folks can handle the recoil
+ allows you to argue with your 7x57 friends
+ allows you to argue with your 260 and 7-08 friends
+ allows you to ignore your 270 friends
+ Federal offers it in factory ammo and has for years (are they on to something?)
+ allows you to win the bullet weight argument with the < 270 crowd
+ for the >= 30 caliber friends, you just ask them what are they compensating for?

There isn't a gnats ass worth of difference between 150 Partitions in a 270,280, or 30-06. Difference would be what else you could run in those chamberings.

I have another vote...

If you're killing vermin from 50-250ish, nothing gives you more for less than the .17 Remington.




Travis

lol

Inside 150 yards I vote for a .45-70 pushing a 350g hardcast to 1091fps using 13.5g HS-6. 935fpe at the muzzle, 937fps/683fpe at 150 yards.

Accurate as hell in my rifle and penetrates 12 water jugs.

I need to try an appropriate similar recipe in my 444...

^ this with a 115gr Partition.

That was my thought progression as well. There isn't much that can't be done well with a .30-06 and 180NP's. And then I thought that a .270 with 130 or 150NP's would also handle about anything that wasn't dangerous.

Its tough to pick one, but the .257 'Bee and .264 Win mag sure seem to pack in a lot of killing power and flat trajectory for a very little recoil. Another would be the .270 Win.

.22 RF

gmdr.com and the Oregon Trail Cowboy Data is your friend.

http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm

To see the load data, click on the .444 bullet weight you want to use.

Note that the data is for Oregon Trail bullets.

Years ago I chose the 7x57AI for my hunting rifle. I get 280 velocity out of a 57mm case and 3050fps w/a 140gr bullet. I can shoot the 150gr 2900+ and it has never let me down. It really is for me the most bang for your buck. powdr