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Nothing smells as good as a Just Fired Winchester Shotshell or 22 LR case, while sitting under a Hickory Tree Squirrel Hunting early in the morning when the sun is just coming up. Or a burnt paper shotgun hull on a cool fall morning. Good memories......  You beat me to it. Paper hulls are so aromatic. I have almost a full box of 16 gauge paper Winchesters and I fire off one every fall just to remember.
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I agree, they need to make an air freshner with that scent  . I've never seen red dust you are talking about though..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I do the same thing LH. Every year I try to knock down a bird or two with one of my Dad's shotguns that I learned to bird hunt with, and do it with paper hull ammo I've saved over the years. It always takes me back to hunting with him when I was a kid... BTW, it's a 16ga too! 
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If it is not Red then the call is yours. All powder has some dust remaining from the manufacturing process. It is mostly graphite.
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Well, upon further review and comparing to a can of imr 4064 from 2001, this 4350 is different.
Oh by the way, the can in question is dated Sept 1990....25 years. I switched powders.
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Well, if in doubt, don't.
It's not worth it.
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but, has a red/brownish dust when poured. Any concerns? After only 15 years!!  been opened 15 years? Sycamore
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I'd better get cracking ! Sycamore
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Myself.! I have 2 5lb tins of SR 4756 and SR 7625 dated 1982 and 1986. They smell good, too! 
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Load a few rounds, put it in your shooting buddy's loaner gun, and see what happens. 
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So what does the red powder do???I have used cans and cans of IMR with red powder in it and could not tell the difference between it and fresh powder on my chronograph.
Its all right to be white!!
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I didn't see this question asked, but is it old enough it's in the old metal IMR canisters? I've known a handloader or two who found "red dust" in their metal canisters that ended up being rust from an aged can. The powder was still fine.
Dumping it out is still the safest road to travel...
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It is in a can dated 1990.
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why not load a couple rounds, fire them and see what happens before you make it fertilizer?
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I have zero experience with red powder and it appears no one on here is certain either. I'm still thinking it over. I did just order an 8lber of H4831 and an 8lber of imr 4064, so I'm not short powder.
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That is why I would shoot it and see what happens since nobody else has any more experienced opinions. As long as you have a rod to push out any stuck bullets if the powder is really bad, what bad things could happen other than needing a good cleaning?
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I had some 4831 from a metal can that was like that. I think that it was rust from the can. I did not want to run that rust down the barrel of my rifle. I dont think it could be good for it.
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That is why I would shoot it and see what happens since nobody else has any more experienced opinions. Uhhhhhhhh...there a few of us with experience and we told him not to shoot it if it has 'rust' on it.... Pretty common knowledge......
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From what I gather, the reddish dust is likely powder that has broken down over time, and typically burns faster than the intact composition of the powder, which can lead to higher than expected pressure spikes. I'd either sift the dust out of the powder, or discard it. Probably chuck it.
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