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You mean someone needs to get up early on Monday ( like today ) , shave and shower , drive for 1/2 hour ( or more ) get in on time, and do a job, for the system to work. I have been doing this for 40 years and figured everyone did the same. 
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The problem with Greece, nobody is working:
Also driven by the fact that Greece makes almost no hard good, i.e., no industrial base for either jobs or goods to sell or trade. The exact direction of the U.S. economy. MM I remember reading last year, maybe longer ago, that government policies, taxes, regulations, has caused a flight of capital, and of manufacturing from Greece. Much of that has gone across the border to Turkey, and to Bulgaria. Greek workers are out of jobs, in large part, due to the socialist policies of the Greek government.
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With a reasonable turnout, looks like those on support have enough there to carry an election.
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Switch must go off when they move to the US. I don't know a greek family that doesn't over work.
You're talking about Americans. Please don't confuse the two. Travis
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There's only so many olives that can be pressed and tourist to be fleeced...what's everyone else to do? Zorba say "Drink Ouzo!"
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From what I've been reading on the situation, a big part of the "no" vote is coming from the young people of Greece who are understandably not willing to accept the debt and austerity that resulted from the actions and government of the older people.
The same situation exists in America and I expect some political ramifications resulting from it as the Millennials start taking charge.
It could be rough here. The International Loan Sharks aren't going to turn loose of America without a fight.
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Yup. The greeks who actually want to work are now Americans, or Turks, or Armenians, or citizens of anywhere other than Greece. The ones left there are parasitic teat-suckers.
The Greek finance minister this morning said (effectively) "You people have sealed your fate with the 'No' vote. I want no part of what is about to happen." And he immediately resigned.
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The Greek finance minister this morning said (effectively) "You people have sealed your fate with the 'No' vote. I want no part of what is about to happen." And he immediately resigned.
No. That's not what happened and that's not what he said. http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/07/a-man-of-honor.html
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They will start looking for jobs when they get hungry.
I am..........disturbed.
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I fear that this is the US in 10 years. Wait until China calls in our debt.
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I fear that this is the US in 10 years. Wait until China calls in our debt. Do the math, SS roles double in the next 10 years and we can't even come close to paying our bills now.
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There's only so many olives that can be pressed and tourist to be fleeced...what's everyone else to do? You forgot about the sardines.
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I'm still I disbelief a country full of Greeks would be pro-lazy.
Travis Switch must go off when they move to the US. I don't know a greek family that doesn't over work. The key here is that they emigrated to US looking for better opportunities and not afraid to work. I just read an article the other day about how Greece is on a death spiral because many of the educated/skilled Greeks are moving out of the country. In Greece, the more educated you are, the lower your mandatory retirement age.
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I fear that this is the US in 10 years. Wait until China calls in our debt. Fortunately, US Treasuries are not redeemable on demand. China can either sell their holding in the secondary market, or hold them until maturity, but they cannot redeem them.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Greece is the best casestudy we have to pattern our response when the time comes.
hopefully everyone is learning about every jot & tittle the Greeks are doing.
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From what I've been reading on the situation, a big part of the "no" vote is coming from the young people of Greece who are understandably not willing to accept the debt and austerity that resulted from the actions and government of the older people.
The same situation exists in America and I expect some political ramifications resulting from it as the Millennials start taking charge.
It could be rough here. The International Loan Sharks aren't going to turn loose of America without a fight. The NO vote is coming from the middle age people who retired at 45 and don't want to get off their lazy asses and go back to work.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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I fear that this is the US in 10 years. Wait until China calls in our debt. Fortunately, US Treasuries are not redeemable on demand. China can either sell their holding in the secondary market, or hold them until maturity, but they cannot redeem them. why does the fact that they can't redeem them until maturity not make me feel warm & fuzzy? I think it is because maturity dates are on the horizon.
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I hate to be this cruel but, this maybe a good thing for the world. Everyone is watching Greece. Unlike all other times in history when a country went belly up, we did not have the full media, and social media we have now. Depending on how bad it gets it may instill fear in other countries, and people in general, which will be a good thing. People will see that money spent on credit has to be paid back. It doesn't matter if a county gives a perk like retiring at 50 on credit, or someone using credit to buy a jet ski in Florida.
People must be shown an example of what will happen when you live beyond your means, borrow money, and don't live on a budget. Many people believe that someone, or something will step in and save them, they won't really have to suffer the consequences of living beyond their mean.
That's why people who lived through the depression in the 1930s would almost never borrow money. They realized wheat happened if you could not pay your bills, and it wasn't. Might be good for people to see the grapes of wrath in living color. I do feel bad for the Greeks who will be the actors in this horror film. I agree with about all of this, but screw the Greek population of communist good-for-nothings! They deserve what is happening to them, and I'll not shed a tear. They also don't pay their taxes. Let them sink into the Aegean.
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I fear that this is the US in 10 years. Wait until China calls in our debt. Fortunately, US Treasuries are not redeemable on demand. China can either sell their holding in the secondary market, or hold them until maturity, but they cannot redeem them. why does the fact that they can't redeem them until maturity not make me feel warm & fuzzy? I think it is because maturity dates are on the horizon. Gus, some treasuries mature every month. But we will also conduct 10 more treasure auctions this month.
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The NO vote is coming from the middle age people who retired at 45 and don't want to get off their lazy asses and go back to work.
Like I said,.... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/06/greek-feferendum-no-vote-why-young-peopleGreece’s young people voted against the harsh bailout terms set out by creditors in Sunday’s referendum, voting in favour of no – or Oxi – by around 2 to 1. Analysts had predicted that the ballot could be swung by the youth vote, with some polls suggesting that 80 per cent of young Greeks would vote against the plan.
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