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I can speak to how deep an 81mm mortar can drive a baseplate into the dirt, but I have no expertise regarding fireworks mortars. Even with a 2.5' diameter baseplate, and relatively dry soil, an 81 can drive that baseplate at least two feet into the ground, after repeated rounds fired. Of course, it's tossing a 9 lb. round out there, out to nearly 3 miles at a max charge, so you can imagine the recoil involved.

Again, I have NO expertise regarding fireworks mortars.

Well a friend fought cancer for three years, he just died and it was not pleasant, so someone being stupid with a deadly device of his own choosing does not get much sympathy from me.

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Kids is stoopid, they do stoopid things, it doesn't mean they deserve to die for their stoopidity. I can name a few things that if I would have succumbed to my own young stupidity, would most likely garner the same reaction. Some people are acting as if they never got drunk as a teen and did stupid crap.

I don't believe JDK or 458 Lott said or even implied that the guy deserved to die.

Perhaps you were just adding something to the conversation?

Yeah, no one said he should have died. Of course your reading comprehension has never been stellar.

No, I think they when they infer they have no sympathy for his foolishness, that implies he deserves what he got, no?

..and you're still a big mouth.

there is no common sense anymore. People play video games and have very little exposure to reality. Kid's get no exposure for the most part to knives, hatchets, matches, guns, fireworks. We have seatbelt laws and airbags. Folks die because they have a fleeting concept of physics and reality. Brandon Lee killed himself with a blank on a movie set I guess about 20 years ago, put the gun to his head with a blank in it IIRC. Teach your kids and grandkids a little reality when ever possible. We cannot assume this kid was a moron, we can know he had no idea what he was did was going to kill him.

No. That's utterly dishonest.

A nine year old boy was killed in a house fire that same weekend. His sister is in critical condition. No fault or doing of their own.

A drunk 22 year old puts a firework to his head and lights it. He is also dead.

Both are way too young but I know where my sympathies lie.



I agree but and this is a big but. The drunk 22 year old parents are now calling for State regulations of fireworks. I may not be the brightest bulb but I never considered drinking a bunch of Nattys and lighting a mortar on my head as being a good idea. Don't need the state to tell me that. We can't reward stupid.

His mom said he 'thought' it was a dud. How could she possibly know what was going thru his mind at the time? I mean, other than the mortar....

No.

It implies you are scratching for stuff to get worked up over.

Agreed, I know I did plenty of things as a teen that were flat out stupid in hindsight. I think if most people are honest about things they would say the same.

Stupid move by the kid, yea. Deserves to die, no.

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Now his mom is calling for stricter laws concerning fireworks.....


The stoopid apple didn't fall far from the stoopid tree.

The "kid" was 22, plenty old enough to know stupid. In todays Armed Forces, there are plenty of you men of that age who carry a huge responsibilty on their shoulders and are a credit to their family and country..

Looking at the mothers statment also reinforces that "stupid" is not age related..

I'd speculate he was violating some regulation by simply picking the thing up. Maybe serial numbers and registration can fix stupid.

I feel for the family.

But as they say, you can't fix stupid (with more laws).

22 isn't a kid.

At 22 I was a Sergeant in the Marines, guarding an embassy in El Salvador, during a nasty civil war.

Talk about reaching

This isn't a criminal sentence, and life is not fair. As much as liberal progressives would like us to believe that there are no consequences to one’s actions and choices, and that participating is just as valuable as putting in a winning performance, it just isn’t so. I’ve shed countless tears for children I don’t know who have died through no fault of their own. I’m saddened by people who chose to take their own life when they fall into despair.

If this had been my own kid I’d certainly be saddened by the loss of his life, but instead of trying to blame others for his stupid actions, I’d be searching within myself how I’d failed as a parent.

It was an absolutely stupid beyond belief action. To considerate it anything other than that is ridiculous. There are consequences to actions and one really stupid action is often one’s last act. I’m sick and tired of this nation coddling and excusing the stupid. They should be made to understand at a young age that foolish behavior is not acceptable.

The definition of deserve is: to do something or have or show qualities worthy of (reward or punishment)

I guess I’ll be a heartless bastard to say by that definition, igniting and explosive on his head, he absolutely deserved what he got. No different than putting a gun to his head and pulling the trigger and expecting something other than blowing one’s brains out.