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LMAO! Are you being serious? Thats an honest question too...

Personally, if you can't tell on your "eye charts" or on deer antlers at less than 150 yards then step up and try to count growth rings on sheep at 3/4 mile while trying to decide if he has 15" bases or if they are closer to 15 1/2" bases or try to field judge a mule deer or elk to within inches from a mile or more away. Try doing this when light is not optimal or early or late. You should be able to tell instantaneously on your "eye chart" at 127 yards but after you visit your optometrist step on out to big country and you'll figure out really quick that you essentially brought a soup spoon to a gun fight with your 7-15x35's and your Swarovski rifle scope.

Your opinions on optics are so far removed from anything logical I have to believe you are joking

Great news for the OP!!!!!!!

WalMart has a pair of Vivitar 7-15x35 binoculars priced at 39.74. If you splurge on some windex and paper towels to clean them you might get your purchase to $50 which qualifies for free shipping

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Vivitar-Zoom-Series-7-15x35-Binoculars/17473155

You are welcome...

dammit Drum, now there's gonna be a rush on them......

huntsonora,



Are you trying to convince us readers an 8.5X Swarovski is better on 8.5X than the 7-15X35 Nikon is on 15X for picking up detail? Or what are you trying to say they won't work as well as?

If an optic can't beat the 7-15X35 Nikon on an eye chart or deer antlers there is no way it is going to show you more detail in the hunting world.

huntsonora,



Are you seriously recommending these? Have you actually compared these with the Nikon 7-15X35?

I have to ask the same question.

Are you serious?

He damn sure is. I didn't think it was possible for somebody to be this fu**ing stupid but apparently I was wrong. He is literally comparing 7-15x35 Nikons to Swarovski binoculars and trying to convince people that the Nikons are superior.

I wouldn't believe this story if somebody told it to me but I've seen it with my own eyes. Unfuckingbelievable

If I had somebody show up to one of my camps saying the things he's saying I literally would not give them bullets because I don't trust anybody this stupid to walk behind me with a loaded weapon

Wow, the entertainment never ends...comparing 8.5 power to 15 power and stating you can see more details at 131 and 127 yards???? And Swaro vs. Nikon?

Where's the popcorn?!

I ask you the same question. Are you serious? You want us to believe you can see more detail with a Swarovski on 8.5X than a Nikon 7-15X35 on 15X?

I'm not saying the Nikons are better unless one can only afford something in that price range. Like I said, they are the only binoculars to give me the "WOW!" If I could afford them I would have them.

Before I switch to fixed power binoculars I found lots of game with the Nikon 7-15X35. I don't think you guys are trying to help the original poster by telling him to get Swarovski binoculars. You just like to read your own internet bullying.

Nobody is telling him he needs to buy Swarovski.

I would tell him I would take the Swaro you mention everyday that ends in y and twice on Sunday over your Nikon though.

SLM,



This post sure sounds like it to me. I suggest something almost anyone can afford and you suggest as pipe dream for most hunters.

Again I'm not surprised you missed the point.

There are lots of good choices out there.

Yours is not one of them.

Funny thing is I could out glass him with my Pentax 8s and him using his nikon 15s... hell I'd out glass him even if he had swaro 15s.

Folks thinking they can judge a bino in a store or broad daylight, looking at an eye chart or a truck on the other mountainside. I've seen it a dozen times... and they can't see a deer bedded 300 yards away... cracks me up.

Kent

Very true, Kent.

The term 'glassing' as it relates to 15s goes over most people's heads. And that's the crux of the issue. I find discussing glass on some people's level doesn't make them smarter and just makes me read dumb chit.

Kent

Though not quite 15x...would take a look thru the Kowa 12x56BDXD new around the $700 mark

As you stated, I find most who "glass" or claim to do so, don't really understand the terminology and, also, don't have the patience to do it correctly.

Here in AZ, I judge my hunting "buddies" by their willingness to deal with crappy/miserable situations with a smile and their glassing ability. I have been lucky to find many here who are joys to hunt with...

In fact, I will be helping on a lot of deer and elk hunts this coming fall...can't wait!

ETA: Didn't mean to hijack!

When I lived back east, I didn't get it either. I thought fielding $2000 binocs was simply diqque measuring. I was wrong. Tripod-based glassing is an art and a sport unto itself, and you don't have to have a tag to do it ...

Glassing is a learned skill, and cannot be bought. However, one can quickly become a solid glasser and have fun. An excellent glasser -- that's another story.

Kent,

I'd appreciate your thoughts on "glassing" and 15x binos. Target size, distance, terrain, and cover.

Jason

edit to add: where do you feel 15x would NOT work, as well.

15s are a philosophy, a way of hunting, covering ground with your eyes, finding animals otherwise not seen. Byproduct is you can observe animals and their movements/habits, also covering a large area scouting. I've sat and watched multiple herds of deer from one spot all day, watching them eat, bed, move with the shade, water, try to keep bugs off them, play, hide when a cat or human gets close, and feed again in the afternoon.

Nobody starts out with 15s being any good, self taught is the hardest and most quit. That was me. I returned to it a few years later and made myself 'see' the pattern. That was the middle 90s. If you can glass with someone experienced it'll advance the learning curve much faster.

I didn't glass with another glasser till '08, didn't know where I stood, I have an idea now.

The mind has to learn to see the pattern. Like where's Waldo, at first it'll take hours or maybe never unless someone points him out. Soon you can pick him out faster until it's easy.

At first glassing, you only find the same easy animals you did with 10s or 8s, out in the open or moving. You can see those animals farther out now.

The magic is when you find a bedded one, maybe the flies are around your ears and you notice a movement 800yds under a tree, it's a buck flicking his ears from the same bugs.

Or just the shape of a head, or back or legs in tree or antlers sticking above grass. You may have to stare at it for minutes till it moves a few inches to confirm... animals you would never find hand holding.

Pretty soon you sweep an area quickly for easy animals, then start investigating every shadow under bushes working in grids.

Anyway, size doesn't matter, I can see birds at half a mile easy. The hardest animal in az are coues deer, they blend in on open slopes, elk are lightning bolts and pronghorn are even more so. Mule deer are hard but have more black and white that stand out, javalina are short and can disappear in ground cover.

Terrain should be long and at least some open areas.

15s won't work in thick stuff close or far. I don't use them archery elk hunting where I hunt.

Now we could sit together all day on a mountain and discuss what we are seeing in just that one local, and not cover all the pros and cons and different scenarios. It's a large subject well beyond what bino to buy.

Here's some examples of glassing...

Coues deer



Water pond in a high wilderness bowl...





Mule deer flats...