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I was looking to set up a backup elk rifle almost identical to my 7STW. Found a Rem 700 with a 26" Lilja sporter chambered in 300H&H. Anyone running the 30Super for elk? I was thinking of running 180 accubonds. Would you leave the barrel at 26", or chop it to 22" or 24"?
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Case capacity and ballistics wise the question is equivalent to asking if anyone is using the 300 WSM for elk.
Allowing for that I'm pretty sure the answer is yes.
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I hunted elk for years with a pre-64 M-70 in 300 H&H with a 24 inch barrel, it was an elk killing machine. I suspect you will get some replies that an '06 will kill just as well - which it will, but with handloads the 300 H&H still has an edge.
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Case capacity and ballistics wise the question is equivalent to asking if anyone is using the 300 WSM for elk.
Allowing for that I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. I wasn't asking if it was OK. Just asking about people's experiences to get a conversation going about the 300H&H. I don't see it mentioned much.
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It does have a cool factor for me.
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I have a pre-64 M70 and a Ruger No. 1S in 300 H&H. The one elk I've shot with the 300 H&H was with a Hornady 180 SP in a different No. 1 that I no longer have. I mostly shoot 200 Partitions in them these days.
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I have a number one in .300 H & H.. I have had 700's, 721's and model 70's.. All with 26 in barrels.. It is a great caliber.. Personally, I would stick with the 26" barrel.. It is my favorite length for most of my hunting rifles.. the original .300's had 26 in tubes.. Mostly I have been shooting 165's for elk or 200 gr. part. depending on the hunt.. Great caliber.. Enjoy..
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Good enough for kudu, so yes on elk. Keep the length for maximum speed at distance. My 721 has 25" or so and I can get 2800 fps using 180-grainers without pushing things.
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The .300 H&H was my favorite elk rifle. 24" barrel, I shot 190 Hornadys.....
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Ingwe,was that .300 H&H a push-feed Winchester M 70?
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Yes...superbly accurate for a factory rifle... It worked on caribou too, on this trip years ago..... Also killed my last elk with it...
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Yes...superbly accurate for a factory rifle... It worked on caribou too, on this trip years ago.....
Well, there you have it - the cool factor sucked out of yet another chambering. There is a certain elan with the 300 H&H. If it makes your socks go up and down, have at it.
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It has panache.... As does many of its users I met your dad at the last pig hunt. Cool dude. He said you had no panache....
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I met your dad at the last pig hunt. Cool dude. He said you had no panache.... Laffin'....Father knows best!
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But you keep killing things that look like whitetail deer...only bigger!
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Case capacity and ballistics wise the question is equivalent to asking if anyone is using the 300 WSM for elk.
Allowing for that I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. I wasn't asking if it was OK. Just asking about people's experiences to get a conversation going about the 300H&H. I don't see it mentioned much. Nothing feeds as smooth as the 300 H&H and I think the word uber first came out of someones mouth when they looked at the 300 H&H cartridge.
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I was looking to set up a backup elk rifle almost identical to my 7STW. Found a Rem 700 with a 26" Lilja sporter chambered in 300H&H. Anyone running the 30Super for elk? I was thinking of running 180 accubonds. Would you leave the barrel at 26", or chop it to 22" or 24"? Sounds like an excellent combonation, I didn't conect with an elk but I've shot a mule deer with the H&H and 180 NPT. I think you're okay, I wouldn't shorten the barrel. Just hunt it and enjoy.
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For many years my 300 H&H was my only big game rifle. My first one was a Remington 721 that was one of the most accurate rifles I've ever owned. I shot a lot of deer and several elk with it. coming into a small windfall and longing for a left handed version, I had Remingtons Custom Shop chamber one of their left handed KS Mountain Rifles in 300 H&H. It has been every bit as accurate as the 721 and has piled up a lot of deer and elk.
Since moving to Alaska, it has one caribou to it's credit. My current affair with the 35 and 400 Whelen has it benched most of the time. I have a goat hunt coming up next month and I was thinking of taking the 400 but now I'm wavering and may drag out the 300 H&H. It's a lot lighter than the 400 so it may get the nod.
I wouldn't shorten the barrel any. I've never felt hampered by a 24 or 26 inch barrel. I'd leave it 26 inches.
I ran a lot of 165 and 180 grain Partitions through mine for deer and elk. They are great bullets and I never had a failure. I found a great deal on a bunch of 220 grain Partitions shortly after moving up here and have been loading them in the 300. The one caribou taken with them was mightily impressed. You could look far and wide and have a tough time coming up with a better combination than the 300 H&H and a 180 grain Nosler Partition.
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Yes...superbly accurate for a factory rifle... It worked on caribou too, on this trip years ago..... Also killed my last elk with it... Nice 'bou and elk you killed with the .300 H&H. Had a Push-feed M 70 in .300 H&H. Then I traded it for something else. Should've kept it.
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Elk: the one you just got about a year ago?
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No,got the other in the mid 90's. Still have the one I bought last year.
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It's been a great elk killer for me, based on a pre 64 M70 action/lilja/legend stock....180 TTSX's @3050 seem to work quite well..
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No,got the other in the mid 90's. Still have the one I bought last year. Whew!!
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The plan for the one in the gunsafe,is to re-stock it in a good piece of english walnut.
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Yes...superbly accurate for a factory rifle... It worked on caribou too, on this trip years ago..... Also killed my last elk with it... Nice 'bou and elk you killed with the .300 H&H. Had a Push-feed M 70 in .300 H&H. Then I traded it for something else. Should've kept it. Now I'm uber confused .... I thought pf M70's were the biggest load of crap made ever?? Nevermind Charlie Sisk uses/d them as a basis for his customs ..... Happy Days
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Found a Rem 700 with a 26" Lilja sporter chambered in 300H&H.
Would you leave the barrel at 26", or chop it to 22" or 24"?
Sounds fantastic. One nice thing about the 700 is the action is long enuff for the H H w/o crowding the COAL. 26 or 24 is personal preference IMO. I wouldn't want 22. Congrats and Good Hunting.
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If your heart is set on being identical to your STW, cut it to whatever the STW barrel length is. Otherwise leave it if it balances, cut it if it's muzzle heavy, or leave it alone if it's close enough.
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Yes...superbly accurate for a factory rifle... It worked on caribou too, on this trip years ago..... Also killed my last elk with it... Hey, I saw a picture of a guy in my Barnes reloading manual that looks just like you.....I think he said he only shoots two sebenties though...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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It's been a great elk killer for me, based on a pre 64 M70 action/lilja/legend stock....180 TTSX's @3050 seem to work quite well.. Handwerk, I love the picture. Excellent rifle and beautiful elk...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Hey, I saw a picture of a guy in my Barnes reloading manual that looks just like you.....I think he said he only shoots two sebenties though...
That must have been my gay identical twin.... He of course is devastatingly handsome as well...just more 'Metrosexual'...
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Hey, I saw a picture of a guy in my Barnes reloading manual that looks just like you.....I think he said he only shoots two sebenties though...
That must have been my gay identical twin.... it's clear he has the brains of the two of them. He of course is devastatingly handsome as well...just more 'Metrosexual'...
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This one shoots Nosler Trophy Grade 180 Accubonds into one hole pretty consistently. It may be my most accurate rifle. I need to take it hunting.
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ingwe, you still have your .300 H & H????
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Nope...I sold it when I quit hunting elk...the one in the pic above is my last one. Not hunting anything these days that requires that big of a gun....thankfully I got all that out of my system...
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How many .300 H&H's did you own,Ingwe?
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Gotcha. Note emoticon.
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This one shoots Nosler Trophy Grade 180 Accubonds into one hole pretty consistently. It may be my most accurate rifle. I need to take it hunting. DMD, that is a beauty. I really like the swirly on that one...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Mine is on a commercial Mauser, with a 25" barrel.
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Mine will see its first elk hunt this Fall. I'm getting 2950fps and excellent accuracy with 180gr. Failsafes. Rifle is a Duane Wiebe 1909 Argentine with a 25" Krieger.
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Woodhits, a Wiebe rifle needs to have pictures shared...please?
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WOW! And in .300 H & H to boot.
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Ooooohhhhhhhh..... Dat one makes me squirm in my seat!
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Thanks guys, I'm really happy with it. Looking forward to hunting with it.
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Very nice!
I really like the barrel contour. It doesn't look like a #2.
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It's been a great elk killer for me, based on a pre 64 M70 action/lilja/legend stock....180 TTSX's @3050 seem to work quite well.. I thought at first someone stole my picture.
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Ooooohhhhhhhh..... Dat one makes me squirm in my seat! So why did you quit elk hunting?
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