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I like the idea of a receiver sighted bolt rifle in the classic style of turn-of-the-century weapons (20th century, not 21st). However, I just don't see the Model 70 or .270 chambering to be totally "correct".
Much better would be a Mauser in 7x57mm or maybe 9.3x62mm (9x57 or 9.3x57 would serve as well) would be much more in keeping with the "retro" styling. A 1903 Springfield in .30-06 would be nice too (something like Roosevelt carried in his safari).
If you are a hard-core Winchester guy (and I assume you are based on this being the Winchester Collectors sight) a Model 54 in .270 would be much better than a Model 70 for this project......and if you can find them the Barns 170 grain round nose bullets would be my choice.
Your Model 70, in my opinion, should be built as an early scoped rifle.....in classic style with an early Weaver fixed power scope. Something that would have been at home in the late 30's or early 40's. Cutting edge at the time with the scoped sight and .270 caliber.
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Friend has an 1895 Chilean Mauser in the original 7x57 chambering that was sporterized by Paul Jaeger of Jenkintown, PA in the 1970's. A work of art and perfect stalking rifle at just over 6 lbs. and equipped with a Williams receiver sight....
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A scope sighted 270 is still cutting edge....
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A scope sighted 270 is still cutting edge.... They were cutting edge when they first came out and they are still damn good... Even better now days with modern bullets and better scopes..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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A custom stocked FWT 270 wears a leupold Vari XIII 3.5X10. My little brothers Ruger M77 has an older non descript 3X9 wide angle scope. It was an off brand but that's what he could afford 30+ years ago. I took it to Wyoming a few years ago and shot an Antelope with it in his memory. A STD 270 has a period correct Leupold Vari XII 3X9 and the other FWT is unscoped at this time.
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There is no dust on a 7x57. I have an action and a stock blank and am considering having another one built as a stalking rifle. I don't know what else to do with it unless it was a 25/06. A 7X57mm stalking rifle with a full quarter rib express sight filed dead on with the 175 gr Woodleigh or Partition bullets would be light years ahead of cool, and put the "E" in effective.  I sure would like to see a picture of that!
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My 1951 Standard 270 wears a Leupold VX II 3-9. Another Leupold, a VX 2-7 is all excited waiting for its 1957 270 FWT to be delivered Monday. I gave up on open sights except for my early lever actions about the time I was prescribed bifocals. The old eyes just don't focus on rear sight, front sight and target all at the same time.  yooper
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I'm thinking of having the caliber designated as a 275 Rigby. Hornady is making brass with that head stamp. Even Mo perfect.
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I like the idea of a receiver sighted bolt rifle in the classic style of turn-of-the-century weapons (20th century, not 21st). However, I just don't see the Model 70 or .270 chambering to be totally "correct".
Much better would be a Mauser in 7x57mm or maybe 9.3x62mm (9x57 or 9.3x57 would serve as well) would be much more in keeping with the "retro" styling. A 1903 Springfield in .30-06 would be nice too (something like Roosevelt carried in his safari).
If you are a hard-core Winchester guy (and I assume you are based on this being the Winchester Collectors sight) a Model 54 in .270 would be much better than a Model 70 for this project......and if you can find them the Barns 170 grain round nose bullets would be my choice.
Your Model 70, in my opinion, should be built as an early scoped rifle.....in classic style with an early Weaver fixed power scope. Something that would have been at home in the late 30's or early 40's. Cutting edge at the time with the scoped sight and .270 caliber.
TR, this rifle came with the old Lyman receiver already mounted, it's to pretty to disturb, it has the bluing rubbed off the corners kinda like the rifle steel, they look good together. As I stated earlier, this rifle came with a Buehler mount ring set up, it has two knurled wheels at the rear of the base for elevation, the 2.5-8 Bausch & Lomb scope doesn't have any internal adjustments, for all I know this scope and mount ring set could be close to period correct for this 1961 year model Featherweight.
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Friend has an 1895 Chilean Mauser in the original 7x57 chambering that was sporterized by Paul Jaeger of Jenkintown, PA in the 1970's. A work of art and perfect stalking rifle at just over 6 lbs. and equipped with a Williams receiver sight.... SWEET!!!!!
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A scope sighted 270 is still cutting edge.... They were cutting edge when they first came out and they are still damn good... Even better now days with modern bullets and better scopes.. 150 Partitions at 2900 and 10X is pretty cutting, eh BSA? 
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A custom stocked FWT 270 wears a leupold Vari XIII 3.5X10. My little brothers Ruger M77 has an older non descript 3X9 wide angle scope. It was an off brand but that's what he could afford 30+ years ago. I took it to Wyoming a few years ago and shot an Antelope with it in his memory. A STD 270 has a period correct Leupold Vari XII 3X9 and the other FWT is unscoped at this time. I like old glass on old rifles 'if' it's good dependable glass GSP, my old super grade in 300 H&H wears a steel tubed Weaver 4-12x40mm with A.O., an older version of long reach so to speak. lol
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There is no dust on a 7x57. I have an action and a stock blank and am considering having another one built as a stalking rifle. I don't know what else to do with it unless it was a 25/06. A 7X57mm stalking rifle with a full quarter rib express sight filed dead on with the 175 gr Woodleigh or Partition bullets would be light years ahead of cool, and put the "E" in effective. I sure would like to see a picture of that! I bet we will in a year or so. 
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My 1951 Standard 270 wears a Leupold VX II 3-9. Another Leupold, a VX 2-7 is all excited waiting for its 1957 270 FWT to be delivered Monday. I gave up on open sights except for my early lever actions about the time I was prescribed bifocals. The old eyes just don't focus on rear sight, front sight and target all at the same time. yooper Good luck with your new rifle yooper, I hope she makes you a dandy, still holding at a non-corrected 20/20 so maybe I can hunt the irons for a few more years.
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You having one built, Gunner?
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You having one built, Gunner? No, GSP's mulling a 275 Rigby build.
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Ah. I thought you both might put one together. I'm trying to figure out if I want to do something like that to my either my Fwt or a Zastava M98. I could certainly do it to my MRC ASR except MRC's No. 2 contour barrel is pretty heavy. The Zastava has a light contour barrel, like the Featherweight. An alternative might be talking my brother-in-law out of his absolutely beautiful Cabela M70 7x57, adding a quarter-rib, banded front sight, and maybe some steel bottom metal. Think I might be onto something?
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Yes, put the trick on your BIL.
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That's what I've been thinking. I just gotta figure out how to pull it off. 
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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An alternative might be talking my brother-in-law out of his absolutely beautiful Cabela M70 7x57, adding a quarter-rib, banded front sight, and maybe some steel bottom metal. Think I might be onto something? Nahhhhhhhhh... Its been done. We know it as "The Ingwe Special". ![[Linked Image]](http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss45/thmsbrownlee/96690012.jpg)
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