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Just curious if you guys swear by this stuff........

Or just not bother with fuel additives ?

$7 a can......does it work ?

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About three decades ago a small engine mechanic recommended it and I now use it in all my small engines. I thought that was interesting because if the stuff works he wouldn't be seeing as many engines coming through his shop.

What I observed was there is little, if any varnish buildup and with the right dose it stabilizes the fuel.


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Never used it but have heard good things about it.

I've used Marvel Mystery Oil for years. $5 at Walmart for 1qt. 8oz to 20gal of gas. Just finised my second tank in my '96 Cherokee and as usual it smoothed the idle out. Also definitely works for cleaning the top end of a sludged motor when added to the oil.

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Good stuff. Add a can every oil change, and I use it in all my small engine stuff.


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As long as they keep shoving that damn corn gas down our throat, the sales of SEA FOAM will increase. Shame that industry hasn't went toes up already. Sorriest crap ever invented!!!!

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used it for the first time the other day on a poorly running weed wacker. ran about a half a tank through the wacker and i could definitely tell the difference. i'm going to try it on my briggs tiller next.


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Any gas that comes on to my place in a container has either Seafoam or Stabil in it. I never know what it is going into or how long wi it will be there.. No problems leaving gas in small engines over winter.
I don't see the benifit of using it in an auto though. That gas get used up fast.


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I use it in my seasonally used small engines to keep the carbs clean and to clean out gunked up carbs. I got a Honda tiller from my parents with the engine locked up. I got the engine free, but it needed the choke all the way out to run. After a tank of seafoam treated gas, it idles nice and smooth with the choke all the way in once it's warm.


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Buy it by the gallon and save a bunch of $$$$. It works great but does not overhaul engines as some claim. It is a great fuel stabilizer too.

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I use Stabil, seems to work well. Have heard good things about Sea Foam.


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Been using Seafoam for years as a fuel additive in all my autos, small engines and boats with good results.


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There is better stuff out there. Redline SI-1, gumout with Regane, chevron with Techron all work and all have PEA which is what you want.

Stabil Marine works good and I will actually use that in a 50/50 mix with marine ashes 2 stroke engine oil and use it at the rate of 1oz per 5 gallons of gas. It will keep gas fresh, keep everything lubed and the detergents in the 2 stroke keeps everything clean

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Originally Posted by huntsonora
There is better stuff out there. Redline SI-1, gumout with Regane, chevron with Techron all work and all have PEA which is what you want.

Stabil Marine works good and I will actually use that in a 50/50 mix with marine ashes 2 stroke engine oil and use it at the rate of 1oz per 5 gallons of gas. It will keep gas fresh, keep everything lubed and the detergents in the 2 stroke keeps everything clean


+1 for Redline SI-1, Gumout and Techron. I've also added some Marvel as an UCL in conjunction with the Redline, but have no proof it did more than ease my worrying.

I'm going to try your 50/50 mix at 1:640 with my ethanol fillups. I've been buying real gas and adding regular Stabil for a couple rigs I don't drive as often, as well as ALL of my small engines.

What brand of ashless 2-stroke oil do you use? Royal Purple gets good reviews, but costs almost as much as Marine Stabile. When combined, and added at the above ratio it only adds about .10c per gallon, so it's not bad I guess. I have a tendency to over-think these lubrication issues though.........


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Originally Posted by tikkanut

Just curious if you guys swear by this stuff........

Or just not bother with fuel additives ?

$7 a can......does it work ?


Yes, it does work. The question is, does it do anything that other additives might also do as well? I don’t know that. What I do know is that whatever is in it works quite well to improve some performance issues that don’t go away with the regular addition of isopropyl, water problems IOW. I use it 2-3 times a year in the old Dodge mini-van on an as needed basis or when I park it for a couple/few months. It takes care of the idle flutter or miss within a half a tank of gas. I don’t like to spend the coin for that little can, but it works so I do it.


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The guy I just bought a couple of ATV's from swears by Starbright Startron. He gave me a couple of bottles. Eight ounces treats one hundred twenty eight gallons. Not sure if I will use it as I run non-ethanol gas in everything up here.


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Since no one seems to know what's in Seafoam or any of the other additives, I suspect that a lot of them are the same thing.


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There's an auto show on the local radio station every Saturday. They have mechanics from two different privately owned shops alternate weekly. These are local shops that have been in business for years and have a steller reputation. Both guys recommend adding a can of Seafoam to your vehicles gas tank every 1000 miles, and say that they use it regularly in their vehicles.


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Sea Foam also has a pressured spray cannister that comes with a small diameter, longish, red extension that you can mount to the can and slip the straight end of the extension under the carb/injector intake hose (at a hose clamp joint) and spray the whole can while at a fast idle. The stuff works and cleans up the whole top end.

Mix a little to your 2 cycle lawn equipment/chainsaws, etc., and you'll have no fuel problems with them.

Marvel Mystery is just as good by my long term reckoning, just wished they made it in a pressurized container like does Sea Foam..


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There is better stuff out there. Redline SI-1, gumout with Regane, chevron with Techron all work and all have PEA which is what you want.

Stabil Marine works good and I will actually use that in a 50/50 mix with marine ashes 2 stroke engine oil and use it at the rate of 1oz per 5 gallons of gas. It will keep gas fresh, keep everything lubed and the detergents in the 2 stroke keeps everything clean


+1 for Redline SI-1, Gumout and Techron. I've also added some Marvel as an UCL in conjunction with the Redline, but have no proof it did more than ease my worrying.

I'm going to try your 50/50 mix at 1:640 with my ethanol fillups. I've been buying real gas and adding regular Stabil for a couple rigs I don't drive as often, as well as ALL of my small engines.

What brand of ashless 2-stroke oil do you use? Royal Purple gets good reviews, but costs almost as much as Marine Stabile. When combined, and added at the above ratio it only adds about .10c per gallon, so it's not bad I guess. I have a tendency to over-think these lubrication issues though.........



I like the Pennzoil marine semi synthetic that I can get at Walmart. Its good stuff. You have to get the TCW-3 Ashless stuff. As long as it has that rating you're golden. If I am going through gas pretty quick I will just use the 2 stroke, if my vehicles sit I will use the Stabil Marine/2 stroke blend

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Used it a couple yrs ago in a Nissan 5hp 4 stroke outboard trolling motor.Before its use, could get the boat speed down to 1.6 mph (GPS) before stalling out. After about an hours use with the Sea Foam, motor finally trolled down to .8 MPH and ran smoother. I think it works. I also add Sta-bil to all my small engine stuff.

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Originally Posted by tikkanut

Just curious if you guys swear by this stuff........

Or just not bother with fuel additives ?

$7 a can......does it work ?

http://seafoamsales.com/sea-foam-motor-treatment/


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Originally Posted by huntsonora
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There is better stuff out there. Redline SI-1, gumout with Regane, chevron with Techron all work and all have PEA which is what you want.

Stabil Marine works good and I will actually use that in a 50/50 mix with marine ashes 2 stroke engine oil and use it at the rate of 1oz per 5 gallons of gas. It will keep gas fresh, keep everything lubed and the detergents in the 2 stroke keeps everything clean


+1 for Redline SI-1, Gumout and Techron. I've also added some Marvel as an UCL in conjunction with the Redline, but have no proof it did more than ease my worrying.

I'm going to try your 50/50 mix at 1:640 with my ethanol fillups. I've been buying real gas and adding regular Stabil for a couple rigs I don't drive as often, as well as ALL of my small engines.

What brand of ashless 2-stroke oil do you use? Royal Purple gets good reviews, but costs almost as much as Marine Stabile. When combined, and added at the above ratio it only adds about .10c per gallon, so it's not bad I guess. I have a tendency to over-think these lubrication issues though.........



I like the Pennzoil marine semi synthetic that I can get at Walmart. Its good stuff. You have to get the TCW-3 Ashless stuff. As long as it has that rating you're golden. If I am going through gas pretty quick I will just use the 2 stroke, if my vehicles sit I will use the Stabil Marine/2 stroke blend


Thanks. I just bought a quart of Stabil Marine that I'll start using with my next fill-ups. I'll start my TCW-3 research now. I forgot to mention that I've also been using Lucas UCL in my larger vehicles that burn 10% corn. I've used it strictly as a protective measure, but have never taken the time to evaluate it for possible mileage gains like so many users claim.


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A check engine light just popped on my 04' Dodge Ram 1500 4x4. I had the light checked and the mechanic said it was a "carb sensor." My truck has the Hemi, I don't drive it daily it only has 66,000 miles. Mechanic wants $250 to fix the carb sensor, someone else told me to add some of this stuff in my gas and it would probably take care of it. I'm not a engine guy, advice appreciated by the more knowledgable.


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I'm not a mechanic either, but have had a few check engine lights come on over the years. I'd get second opinion before forking over $250 for a sensor replacement. I've had mechanics check the code, then clear the warning light and wait to see if the light comes back a second time. Often it doesn't, and is the result of a single incident that wasn't a huge deal. I also doubt the sensor costs more than $150, or there's even a full hour of shop time replacing it.

I've had my '08 Ram 2500 light come on twice in the last five years for a loose gas cap (or so the code said), but recently forgot to put the cap on, and left it swinging in the breeze for about 40 miles and it never tripped off a warning light. Go figure.

About six months ago the check light came on in our run-around hoopty, and before I got around to plugging in the OBDII to read the code, a week or so went by and the light went off on its own.

Come to think of it, the only sensor I've ever had replaced was in my Tacoma, at about 50K when the TPS started acting up. It really worried me because I got freeway speed hiccups and the computer couldn't capture the code the first time. When it finally did, it was a simple sensor replacement, and I was glad to buy a new one.

Again I'm not a mechanic, but I've learned to be distrustful enough to ask for second opinions. And to answer your question about Seafoam, it shouldn't make the problem worse, might make it better, or might correct itself with a fresh tank of fuel.


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You guys want to see a product that will get you better mileage GUARANTEED? Download the app "Pure Gas" and find a gas station that has ethanol free gas. Your vehicle will run better and you will get better mileage.

I try to run a tank every 3000 miles or so.

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A check engine light just popped on my 04' Dodge Ram 1500 4x4. I had the light checked and the mechanic said it was a "carb sensor." My truck has the Hemi, I don't drive it daily it only has 66,000 miles. Mechanic wants $250 to fix the carb sensor, someone else told me to add some of this stuff in my gas and it would probably take care of it. I'm not a engine guy, advice appreciated by the more knowledgable.


BG44K will also work wonders. On an 04 with that low mileage I would absolutely run a can through the tank. It works best when you drive for a bit and then shut it down and it takes a week or two to go through the tank of gas. This allows it to do work

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I'm going to try it, appreciate the replys.


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I bet a like amount of acetone would net the same results as seafoam. The top end cleaning action could be done with even cold water.....you are adding a cold liquid to hot carbon in an effort to break it up.

After cleaning/rebuilding a lot of carburetors the #1 culprit I find is something that made it past the filter or dried up gas that rehydrates with a deposit. 99% of the time draining the bowl and a quick shot of carb cleaner or acetone will blast out enough particles to get back on the road.

If a fuel additive in the amount of 8oz per 128 gallons was enough to show remarkable engine improvement, the epa would have mandated it long ago as all of the ingredients are available at the refinery.


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If a fuel additive in the amount of 8oz per 128 gallons was enough to show remarkable engine improvement, the epa would have mandated it long ago as all of the ingredients are available at the refinery.


Adding 10-15% Ethanol decreases the mileage yield of gasoline, and yet here we are. I've never felt the EPA had my health, household budget, or the environment in mind while making their proclamations. While snake oil has been around a long time in various forms, I believe some products do work as claimed.


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If a fuel additive in the amount of 8oz per 128 gallons was enough to show remarkable engine improvement, the epa would have mandated it long ago as all of the ingredients are available at the refinery.


I don’t know about your 1:2000 (or so) ratio, but I know that 1:125 and even 1:250 ratios of additives can be useful. Alcohol certainly can improve the performance of a vehicle that has water in the fuel at the rate of 1 ounce per gallon or so. But does that mean it should be mandated therefore in all gasoline? (It does in fact attract water vapor which can also be a bad thing.)

Specific additives can be a good thing for specific circumstances. I would hate for EPA to mandate them when they are in fact often not helpful at all and even detrimental.


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Some alcohols can mix up to 20% or so with water for sure, but for the 99% of folks that don't get their fuel barged in, water in fuel is pretty low concern. My point was that seafoam is no magic bullet that can't be substituted with a variety of other suitable chemicals......or simple maintenance. I personally would rather clean the bowl on my lawn mower than dump seafoam in it, and it takes 10 minutes to go completely through the average Walbro carbs on your saw or weed wacker. What is found 99.9999999% of the time is debris or solids from dried fuel.

Very simple fix.

To think that a can of medicine can replace a valve grind is laughable.


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Lots of additives hold a certain ‘snake oil’ appeal to some folks I suppose. I don’t think that is the gist of this thread however.

Where small engines are concerned, I’ve certainly seen more harm done by tinkering with carbs when proper use and very simple maintenance (like good filters and water displacer additives) will prevent 99% of the problems. (Water creates ‘solids’ in aluminum and zinc carb bowls when it sits in there and causes corrosion by-products for example.)


Suggesting that water in fuel is not much of a concern however unless it is barged denies the reality that cold weather brings to the picture. The water that gets in fuel, even the stuff which is barged in, is largely atmospheric in origin as it sits in storage. The same is true of many vehicle-mounted fuel tanks. Most people have no idea what’s actually in their tank and even fewer drain and clean them. Some of that stuff that accumulates in the tank will eventually find it’s way beyond the filters and into the carbs or injectors. Some fuel additives can be useful periodically for cleaning out the stuff that can cause rough idling. SeaFoam seems to work quite well in this regard. It might not be better than a 10 minute carb job on a simple lawn or garden implement, but it sure beats spending a couple of hours tearing into machinery that is still in need of chemicals of one sort or another for proper cleaning, or could have been avoided in the first place by the use of a proper additive.

Obviously nothing you add to the fuel or oil will repair worn rings or cylinders, or repair leaky valves.


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Originally Posted by tikkanut

Just curious if you guys swear by this stuff........

Or just not bother with fuel additives ?

$7 a can......does it work ?

http://seafoamsales.com/sea-foam-motor-treatment/


Customers with the ford 5.4 that are getting cam phaser noise have been adding half a bottle to the oil. Have not had an issue since.

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Originally Posted by roundoak
About three decades ago a small engine mechanic recommended it and I now use it in all my small engines. I thought that was interesting because if the stuff works he wouldn't be seeing as many engines coming through his shop.

What I observed was there is little, if any varnish buildup and with the right dose it stabilizes the fuel.


When my log splitter started running [bleep] my buddy who was also a small engine guy told me to purchase 91 octane or higher and toss in some seafoam. That was years ago and haven't had a problem since. The small engines seem to dislike the ethanol crap over time.


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Been using it for several years, works

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I service 10-12 chainsaws, cutoff saws, and vent fans every week at the fire dept. and Seafoam has been a mainstay to keep them running. Usually I can get them running again with liberal doses of Seafoam spray or Seafoam Deep Creep in the carb if I don't have time to take the carb apart. I was at a certification class from one of the power equipment manufacturers a couple of years ago and the engineer who headed up the repair dept. swears by it and gave me a case to try out. I'm normally leery of most additives but the Seafoam has proven itself so far.

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Sea Foam it is........thx for the replies/info......

Walmart has it for $7 a can or so...

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I use it in all my small engine stuff. That, and no ethanol gas seems to keep things running smooth

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If memory serves me, Seafoam is mostly tolulene, with diesel, and white gas.

It can work great as a carbon blaster when drowning out a warm motor and letting it set for thirty minutes to overnight ( it will kill lots of mosquitoes when restarted ). If you want to run it though a tank of fuel, add it when the tank is a quarter low or less and drive it a few miles before filling up the rest of the tank.

Won't hurt anything, usually helps.

As to the check engine lights, sensors, etc. If the light is on, chances are you are not getting as good of fuel mileage as you could, especially O2 sensors.



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