Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Ruger American vs. Ruger Hawkeye (LH)

The RAR-Predators that I'm shooting have proven to be very accurate out of the box, with the 204, 243, and 6.5 Creedmoor being exceptionally so. Not quite as out of the box accurate as the Vanguard2, but pretty darn close and at least $100 less expensive.

as smooth as 60 grit sand paper being substituted for Toilet Paper...but look on the bright side.... probably picks up more Stuff than TP...

and remember, you may not like what Bricktop has to say...

but he always says it wearing a Tux and with a big smile on his face....how's that for class???

By your own admission your "experience" consists of "working a gun counter." Anyone who would base a purchase decision off of that as well as the blatantly false nonsense you padded onto that "experience" would be called a moron. A lot like the same narcissistic ego that compelled you to post that drivel in the first place.

Go mop the floor, ape.

Ah, point taken , you and my poor brother. He did just recently buy a new savage that he is pretty happy with and like I said I like both of mine but I did pick them up when they were selling for $200 or so.

Dang, John, I can't believe you let that Hawkeye 6.5 Creedmore you used for your article go. That one seemed almost perfect, if not as pretty as your FN swede.

It'll cost a couple hundred to put a decent trigger in the Hawkeye. The American has a great trigger from the get-go. I guess the bottom line is, do you want to kill stuff with it, or look at it? I shot a friend's Hawkeye in 30.06 and we both agree that the trigger sucks. I also shot a Ruger American in .308. The American was more accurate, probably due to a good trigger. I have Winchester 70's. No plans to change.

If you want to spend $200 to put a trigger in a Hawkeye, that's certainly an option. But I've found the factory trigger can be given a very fine pull in about half an hour.

I am not a "pretty gun" guy. It is a tool used to keep my freezer full. I have never owned a Ruger rifle, due to barrel issues etc. over the years. I do not like wooden stocks as they have too many issues with weather, scratching etc.

I will have a left-hand, stainless .308 American in my mitts by the end of this week and will make my evaluation at that point. I have read/heard a lot of good stuff about the American for sure.

You seem to be blissfully unaware that the left-handed Model 77s have all been manufactured outside the era of allegedly "bad" barrels.

I have been training a guy from work who has never shot a rifle before last November.
He has a RAR 30-06 and RAR 22.
Today he shot a 5 shot group with 180 corelocks on 3x into 1.5".
My 17 year old daughter has hammering the 22 RAR carbine of mine for an hour. Fast as she could reload the magazine, 100+ rounds into a 4" pattern at 100 with federal bulk.

Just ordered a 300blk ranch.

mitch ive owned a left hand tikka t3 lite stainless 243, right hand t3 lite stainless 6.5x55 and RAR in 223.

both tikkas out shot my RAR and i liked the tikka's stocks better, but this damned RAR lives in my truck and is my go to rifle for running around the farm and killing schit.

it's accurate 3/4" all day long with most loads 55-64 grain and is comfortable to carry ( read light and handy )smooth and feeds great.

it's as good as the tikka only less expensive.

not a fan of the savages accurate, yes but rough as a cobb.

if someone stole all my rifles a RAR would be the first id buy to replace them

I am "blissfully aware" of the rifles that have been made. I also know the problems that my friend has had re-barreling their actions due to poor quality steel. I have had no reason to try a M77, when there are great Savages and Remingtons that I know that I can trust.

I have decided to try an American due to price and favorable evaluations. I don't buy rifles all that often, so I am not going to buy one that I don't like or trust.

"Poor quality steel"; that's a hoot. The cast steel Ruger receivers have been tested and proven to be stronger than the bar stock that many others are made from.

Sounds like an excuse from a "poor quality gunsmith" for crap work to me.

If the American fits your needs and budget, by all means buy it. I might buy one myself one day for a throwaway shooter.

You have a "friend." Wow. That's some utterly convincing bullshit right there.

If I could monetize all of the stupid $h!t people like you post, say, and attempt to pass off as fact, I could pay down the national debt and retire.

Since I have had to switch to left Hand rifles due to loss of vision I have mostly Tikkas and they are all shooters. Decided to get a 7mm-08 and went to the Hawkeye just for a change. Boy, what a shooter it is. Very happy I went this direction