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I picked up a TC Triumph BC for cheap last winter. The previous owner had shot it with Pyrodex but never clean it for well over a year.

I've spent a lot of time brushing the bore with Kroil and have made good progress at getting the shine back. However, after a month of sitting in the safe, there are 4-5 spots of rust that redevelop and I have to re-scrub with Kroil.

It still shoots remarkably well for being so neglected/abused.

Is there anything I can coat the bore with to stop the rust spots from redeveloping? I've tried Rem-Oil but me thinks I need to try something else to put a stop to the rust spots for good.

Any ideas? Suggestions? Experiences?

Thanks. WN


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After a thorough cleaning, you need to coat the barrel with an oil to lube the barrel and keep it from rusting.

I use Ballistol to lube my Hawken rifle's barrels after thoroughly cleaning them with very hot water and blowing out all the liquid with compressed air from my small air-compressor. Then I run a patch down the barrel with a good amount of Ballistol on it to lube and preserve the barrel. I've never had ANY rust develop in the barrel in the 7 years I've been using Ballistol even when the rifles have sat several months over the Winter and early Spring.

Ballistol absorbs water and still lubes metal parts to keep the steel from rusting.

In a test lasting 90 days using small steel plates and left out in all kinds of weather, only Ballistol and one other very expensive oil kept ALL rust from forming on the raw steel plates. All the other brands of gun oil and lubricating oil failed to stop the rusting of the plates.

There's also a product out that supposedly coats and sticks to the bore's steel that was made for use in muzzle loading guns. My black powder shooting buddy has used it on his 3 inter-changeable barrels for his Hawken cap-lock, muzzle-loading rifle. The coating supposedly bonds to or sticks to the steel in the barrel. The product supposedly penetrates and bonds with the molecular structure of the steel. I do not know this to be true, but that's what the label sez.

I called my shooting buddy and got the product's name. The name of this product is DynaTec Bore Coat. According to the instructions that come with it, the kit will coat the bores of 5 or 6 long guns.

Here's it's web site address: www.DYNA-TEC.com

I hope this works for you... good luck ! smile


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WOW, that's some good info. I'll see if I can find one or the other and give it a try. Sounds like what I need.

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly!

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Paul, I'd echo what Ron said, basically. I re-did two A&H that were in good shape, and a third akin to what you described. Scrubbed, bore pasted, soaked that one over a couple weeks until it stopped flash rusting. Then dyna bore coated all three.

What I found was, none of the bores rusted while unfired with bore coat, one was five years later! Probably not recommended, but hey. Once fired, the two nice barrels remained easy keepers using blackthorn 209, as you might expect being they were maintained going forward with petro based cleaning. The third, rough barreled gun, I shoot only goex FF in. The rough areas in the bore will rust superficially like any BP fouled bore if it sits fouled all day. The rest of the bore may rust a trace here and there, not much. I didn't have good luck preserving that bore between uses using ballistol, and am generally a fan of the stuff. Did find that sheath/barricade works like a charm for that tough bore. I just patch it out before shooting and hasn't been an issue.

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Whelen Nut. Just recently received an older 20 ga. Topper shotgun barrel with a clean bore but pretty rusted exterior. Blueing was thin but intact in most spots. Made a little trough with tin foil and sprayed some Walmart SuperTech brand spray to free rusted fastners ETC. This spray completely dissolved all the rust on that barrel. Kinda smelled like PB Blaster.

I am now using it on the rusted bore of a rifle barrel. Things look promising so far.


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New Knights come with DBC from the factory. They're all stainless, but it's supposed to make it easier to wipe out.

I started using Ballistol when I was shooting a .54 Pedersoli flinter. I'd found a little surface rust in the barrel after cleaning with hot water and using another oil afterwards. I cleaned it up with Ballistol and bronze wool, then started cleaning with a diluted Ballistol-water mix (1-5) and never had another problem. Beats the heck out of a bucket of stinky water and trying to get every nook and cranny dry. Even mixed 1-10, Ballistol prevents rust, so no worries if a little solution remains in the barrel. Any solution left will just mix with the straight Ballistol used as a protectant. You can also use it straight to clean, which I do for BH209. Straight or diluted, it's also a good patch lube.

Ballistol will gum up a bit as the solvent base evaporates, but the gum is still very slippery. It also will stiffen up in really cold temps like 0F, but if it's that cold, my old, fat, ass is generally indoors.


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Thanks for the additional information and suggestions. Very much appreciated.

I use BH 209 so petro based cleaning and the products suggested should work out fine. Already found them on-line.

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Originally Posted by Whelen Nut
I picked up a TC Triumph BC for cheap last winter. The previous owner had shot it with Pyrodex but never clean it for well over a year.

I've spent a lot of time brushing the bore with Kroil and have made good progress at getting the shine back. However, after a month of sitting in the safe, there are 4-5 spots of rust that redevelop and I have to re-scrub with Kroil.

It still shoots remarkably well for being so neglected/abused.

Is there anything I can coat the bore with to stop the rust spots from redeveloping? I've tried Rem-Oil but me thinks I need to try something else to put a stop to the rust spots for good.

Any ideas? Suggestions? Experiences?

Thanks. WN


Evapo-Rust

Do not immerse the barrel in this product. Don't want your plastic sights getting wet. Just use a jagged wet patch to keep the inside of the bore wet overnight. Then wet a bore brush patch in the morning and scrub with the Evapo-rust until 'hopefully' rust-removed.

Or you can try JB Bore Paste on a brass bore brush and several patches and 100 laps later might work too. I like Birchwood-Casey Barricade for gun oil It's very good and long-long lasting, even in humid areas.

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Why is it a problem if it touches the sights? EvapoRust recommends immersion. Try wetting a rusty piece and soaking another. The soaked piece comes out much better. Ive tried it on antique ventilation grates.

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I never put Evapo-Rust in contact with polymer or plastic. Didn't want to give a green light without knowing.

Good to know it's safe to use / immerse.

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wd-40 specialist long term rust inhibitor

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WD Specialist is excellent for rust prevention. Far far better than regular WD40.

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tell that to a crankshaft I had turned and then found completely rusted to a solid rust scale 2 weeks later.

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Comparison on steel since we dont use barrels made of iron.
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Thanks guys for sharing your expertise. Very much appreciated.

My Internet has been down the last couple of days due to a lightning strike so I haven't been able to check in until now.

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