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NBT's,
shoot like a match bullets
Great initial expansion, with 50-60% weight retention.
Inexpensive (well at least the seconds are).
Kill kill like lightning....
What's not to like? They weren't always like that
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NBT's,
shoot like a match bullets
Great initial expansion, with 50-60% weight retention.
Inexpensive (well at least the seconds are).
Kill kill like lightning....
What's not to like? They weren't always like that I agree with you and ingwe, scary enough in itself...  Early NBT's were way too explosive and got a bad reputation for wounding instead of killing WT's. In our area, some hunting clubs banned them. I guess after chasing deer with gaping wounds you'd begin to feel that way, too. The newer ones seem OK, they've always been accurate. DF
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antelope sniper,
The "seconds" are great, but I've also picked up BT's for prices almost as low (especially when shipping is added to second) at the local Wal-Mart. In fact, picked up a few boxes of the 95 6mm's there a few months ago.
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The Combined Technology version of their Ballistic Tips are my new favorite hunting bullet. They must be popular as most of the places that would take backorders were out of the 308 168gr's for over a year. They finally started making them again and rest assured I won't be running out of them again anytime soon. I know you think the claims about the coating are largely BS, but I know I can shoot more w/o cleaning with the CT's. The regular version of the 168gr BT were pretty much available all along.
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No, I don't the think the claims about the coating are BS. It helps, but isn't magic.
Have found I sometimes have to adjust the load slightly when switching from "naked" BT's to BST's.
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Bob,
This may dismay you, but the Ballistic Tip has been Nosler's best-selling bullet, by far, for a long time. My guess (based on some knowledge) is Nosler became a really big bullet company only after BT's were introduced in the 1980's. There were other reasons as well, but the BT (which was also conceived by "Big John" Nosler) was a major factor.
The rifle and ammo business is also helping the company grow. They've already made as many rifles this year as they made all of last year. Luckily, more efficient manufacturing has allowed this growth with not nearly as much growth in the number of employees, so the family can still keep track of everything that's happening.
John yup...I know you're right. Even I buy BT's. They are cheaper than Partitions and shoot good. I like the 7mm 150.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I get speed out of the black bullets that I can't get out of the naked bullets.
Those with ears, let them hear.
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If Nosler stops making partitions for my rifles they will be replaced by Swift A-Frames. Yep, Me, too! When ahead and registered on their forum so I can let Nosler know.
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antelope sniper,
The "seconds" are great, but I've also picked up BT's for prices almost as low (especially when shipping is added to second) at the local Wal-Mart. In fact, picked up a few boxes of the 95 6mm's there a few months ago. Your Walmart must be way cooler then mine. I've never seen reloading components in one is this state.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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antelope sniper,
The "seconds" are great, but I've also picked up BT's for prices almost as low (especially when shipping is added to second) at the local Wal-Mart. In fact, picked up a few boxes of the 95 6mm's there a few months ago. Your Walmart must be way cooler then mine. I've never seen reloading components in one is this state. Fountain, Colorado ones actually has a prey decent supply of reloading supplies.
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The one in Helena actually has a decent little reloading section.
Some other local stores that aren't known as conventional sporting goods outlets also have small but well-stocked reloading sections. One is a farm/ranch store. Have picked up some good stuff there over the past few years, often components that couldn't be found in conventional sporting goods stores.
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Yup, a good portion of Wal-Marts in this area have reloading sections. Funny enough, I've never found them in the more rural Wal-Marts where you would think there were few to other alternatives in the area. I guess the market was just too small in the smaller towns to make it worth their while.
And like John said, sometimes farm/ranch stores have them as well. C-A-L Ranch is chain in that's been spreading through-out the mountain west that often carries reloading supplies, even when other stores are out. Their prices are a bit higher than elsewhere for reloading supplies, but if you need something in a pinch...
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Every time I see this thread it startles me a little so up.
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So for those touting the Ballistic Tip, What have you seen in the .257" versions? Does one stand out over the others?
I tried the 100s years ago and swore them off for anything but coyotes. I recently picked up some 110gr(?) Accubonds to try but just haven't done it.
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You will like the 110's, they work very well....
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Partition discontinued... ya right. Maybe certain models but not the partition line. I have been tempted to try the 7mm 150 NBT from my .280 on elk...My hang-up being its not a partition  If the 7mm BT is built like the 338 BT, I see no reasons to not use the 7mm BT on wapiti....
happiness is elbow deep in elk guts.
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I would not use them in lieu of a Partition for sure. Too much at stake on an elk hunt to wonder about the bullet in a marginal situation.
You did not "seen" anything, you "saw" it.
A "creek" has water in it, a "crick" is what you get in your neck.
Liberals with guns are nothing but hypocrites.
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Partition discontinued... ya right. Maybe certain models but not the partition line. I have been tempted to try the 7mm 150 NBT from my .280 on elk... My hang-up being its not a partition If the 7mm BT is built like the 338 BT, I see no reasons to not use the 7mm BT on wapiti.... Partitions have served me so well that I have that same hang-up. I have noticed that through much of the increased run on reloading supplies, Partitions have been harder to come by than BTs. This has been a protracted run. I wonder why manufacturers haven't been able to adjust.
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