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I'm still laughing that in Texas you can be arrested for any traffic infraction. A fuggin busted tail light and off to jail!
The entire state should line up and kick that dumbazz cop in the balls and and slap the chit out if his mammy for costing them so much money.
By the time this is done, any guesses on how much Mr I'll light you up! Will have cost the state for a failure to signal bull chit stop?
What a joke.
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I'm still laughing that in Texas you can be arrested for any traffic infraction. A fuggin busted tail light and off to jail!
The entire state should line up and kick that dumbazz cop in the balls and and slap the chit out if his mammy for costing them so much money.
By the time this is done, any guesses on how much Mr I'll light you up! Will have cost the state for a failure to signal bull chit stop?
What a joke. Texas isn't alone in that. It's classified as a Class C Misdemeanor. Most states allow arrests for misdemeanor offenses. All a citation (ticket) is very simply put, is a charge of violating the law, and your promise to appear in court to answer to those charges.
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RB- How much you think that busted tail light will cost ya?
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RB- How much you think that busted tail light will cost ya? Depends on your attitude. With the right attitude, a receipt for the repair presented to the judge will probably end up costing nothing... With the wrong attitude, compounded with resisting arrest, well, cost is relative.
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Not you, the ticketed, you the tax payer that now has to pay to incarcerate, cloth, feed, house, prosecute, etc....the person arrested for failure to signal.
Somethings should only be a ticketable offense.
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Many years ago, on a holiday weekend, I was stopped after leaving my boat at the marina by two Highway Patrolmen (State Troopers now in Texas) who suspected I was drinking - probably because they saw a beer bottle in my vehicle cup holder sticking up above the dash. This was before having an open container was a no-no. I was smoking a cigar, and was asked by one officer to "put it out" before exiting my truck. I politely asked if I could simply leave it in the ash tray, as it was a pretty good cigar. He allowed that, and when I could follow his pen with my eyes as he whipped it back and forth, I was told to pour my beer out and continue on my way home.
Outcome might have been different had I argued and made a big deal out of this?
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You all do realize that the cigarette extinguishment was a precursor to his legal request for her to exit the vehicle - WHICH SHE REFUSED TO DO.
The cigarette is the red herring a lot of folks are holding falsely to.
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When did smoking cigs inside your own vehicle become illegal? The second the officer decreed it so. He was within his authority to liquidate her at that point, but exercised restraint instead. Sure, we whine and gripe about activist judges "legislating from the bench occasionally(and truth be told we usually support that), but we really support police legislating from behind the badge. So what, that was not illegal and he was picking on her because he sensed a problem in her. The situation became illegal when she refused to follow his command to get out of the car. As it turns out he actually did his job of public safety by taking a suicidal activist on a mission off of the public streets.
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Not you, the ticketed, you the tax payer that now has to pay to incarcerate, cloth, feed, house, prosecute, etc....the person arrested for failure to signal.
Somethings should only be a ticketable offense. Nothing, unless maybe the jail didn't follow some type of policy in checking prisoners. Even cops have to do something wrong before they lose lawsuits.
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It cost nothing to incarcerate a prisoner? To prosecute them? You don't think there will be a lawsuit?
Do you believe the cops actions were warranted? Not just legal, but warranted? Would you of handled it in a similar manner?
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Gleaned this off the website fark.com. yeah, I know, Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...a-in-her-system_55b14a0ce4b08f57d5d41d47Not a cop, never claimed to be one. I think the 'Fire pretty much has it right though
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Telling her to put the cigarette out was for the officer's safety. A lit cigarette can be used as a weapon to burn or blind. When she wouldn't do it he asked her to get out of the car. This is where she screwed up. She refused. She had no right to refuse a lawful order. My thought is that he wanted to separate her from the lit cigarette. Had she complied and got our of the vehicle he would have had her sign the warning and she could have been on her way. She does have an extensive criminal history. http://www.nbcchicago.com/investiga...us-Encounters-With-Police-316025661.html
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quite the list, and a few DUI's too boot.
With the Huffpost's glorious treatise that dope could be in someones system for days and she didn't swallow it to hide it because the jail didn't find it, maybe one can surmise she was buzzed when she was pulled over, and was a functional addict (prior drug arrests), driving just well enough - except for blowing the stop sign and the improper lane change - which she had been cited for in the past.
Maybe she was irritated because she was stoned and the "douchebag cop" was ruining her buzz?
The jerk....
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Again, go outside the US MSM for information. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wallowed-MARIJUANA-inside-jail-died.htmlSuicide: Sandra Bland's autopsy concludes death by hanging and also reveals 30 healing cuts on her wrist, large amounts of marijuana in her blood and NO signs she was attacked or murdered in jail District attorney's office released autopsy findings for Bland on Thursday She was found hanged in Waller County Jail, Texas, on July 10 Authorities say she killed herself, but family suspect foul play Assistant DA Warren Diepraam gave news conference discussing results Said lack of marks on her hands, face, and neck seem to indicate there was not a struggle before her death Also said her neck only has a single wound from the hanging - consistent with suicide Further tests confirmed that there was marijuana inside her when she died By Reuters and Kieran Corcoran For Dailymail.com Published: 13:04 EST, 23 July 2015 | Updated: 21:33 EST, 23 July 2015 Sandra Bland's wrist was covered in 30 cuts that were at least two weeks old and her body contained evidence of a large amount of marijuana in her system, according to an autopsy. Results from the autopsy on the body of Bland, who was found hanging in Waller County Jail, Texas, were released by the district attorney's office this afternoon, who said that there were no signs her death was anything but a suicide. Family and supporters of Bland, who was arrested in a violent confrontation with a Texas state trooper before being jailed, have claimed that she would never have killed herself and must have been murdered. According to Waller County's assistant district attorney, her body was found hanged with a plastic bag, and does not show any signs of struggle. Warren Diepraam, who addressed a news conference Thursday afternoon, said that there were no marks on her hands which could have come from an attempt to fight off any attacker. He also said she only had a single wound on her neck, which apparently came from the plastic bag used in the hanging. Diepraam said that a violent, involuntary attack would usually lead to more wounds on her neck, including broken bones. He also said there were no marks on her eyelids, lips or face, which would usually be the result of an attack. He also noted that forensics experts found around 30 scabbing cut marks on her arms, which were between two to four weeks old, predating her arrest. There were also scab wounds on her back and minor abrasions around her wrists, which Diepraam indicated could have come from her arrest, in which she struggled against handcuffs and was pinned to the floor by an officer's knee in her back. Preliminary drugs tests also found marijuana in her system. Diepraam said that unless she took the drug inside her cell, Bland would have had to have ingested a huge amount of the substance, either by swallowing or smoking it, for it to still be in her system three days later. Bland was pulled over on July 10 near Prairie View, Texas, northwest of Houston, for failing to signal a lane change. After the incident escalated into an altercation between her and the trooper, Bland was taken into custody and charged with assaulting an officer. She was found hanging in her jail cell on July 13 with a plastic trash bag around her neck. Her death was originally ruled a suicide, although officials have said they are handling it as a murder probe. According to Lambert, Mathis said the state needs to conduct a second autopsy on Bland, whose body was returned to the Chicago area on Wednesday in preparation for a funeral on Saturday. CBS News reported that Mathis had asked that Bland's body be preserved after a toxicology test found a substantial amount of marijuana in her system at the time of her death, but denying that he had ordered a second autopsy. Waller County Sheriff Glenn Smith, whose office operates the jail where Bland died, could not be reached immediately for comment Thursday on the report of marijuana in her system. Smith told Reuters on Wednesday that the jailers on duty when Bland was admitted felt she was not a suicide risk based on their observations and her statement on the questionnaire that she was not depressed at the time.
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I have had more than afew occasions where individuals who were smoking dope in their car would light up a cigrette to try and hise the odor of the weed If something like that were suspected by the cop, then that would explain why he asked her to put it out
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quite the list, and a few DUI's too boot.
With the Huffpost's glorious treatise that dope could be in someones system for days and she didn't swallow it to hide it because the jail didn't find it, maybe one can surmise she was buzzed when she was pulled over, and was a functional addict (prior drug arrests), driving just well enough - except for blowing the stop sign and the improper lane change - which she had been cited for in the past.
Maybe she was irritated because she was stoned and the "douchebag cop" was ruining her buzz?
The jerk.... One DUI and a bunch of citations for no insurance, FTA, etc... She was for sure a dumbazz. That's not in question. If the cop had made a mention of smelling weed when he pulled her, I'd get it. He didn't. It was a bullchit "fishing" stop and he escalated the encounter for no apparent reason other than he got his feelings hurt. This whole thing is a giant waste of money and resources.
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quite the list, and a few DUI's too boot.
With the Huffpost's glorious treatise that dope could be in someones system for days and she didn't swallow it to hide it because the jail didn't find it, maybe one can surmise she was buzzed when she was pulled over, and was a functional addict (prior drug arrests), driving just well enough - except for blowing the stop sign and the improper lane change - which she had been cited for in the past.
Maybe she was irritated because she was stoned and the "douchebag cop" was ruining her buzz?
The jerk.... One DUI and a bunch of citations for no insurance, FTA, etc... She was for sure a dumbazz. That's not in question. If the cop had made a mention of smelling weed when he pulled her, I'd get it. He didn't. It was a bullchit "fishing" stop and he escalated the encounter for no apparent reason other than he got his feelings hurt. This whole thing is a giant waste of money and resources. Why would he tip his hand and blurt out. " I smell weed"?
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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quite the list, and a few DUI's too boot.
With the Huffpost's glorious treatise that dope could be in someones system for days and she didn't swallow it to hide it because the jail didn't find it, maybe one can surmise she was buzzed when she was pulled over, and was a functional addict (prior drug arrests), driving just well enough - except for blowing the stop sign and the improper lane change - which she had been cited for in the past.
Maybe she was irritated because she was stoned and the "douchebag cop" was ruining her buzz?
The jerk.... One DUI and a bunch of citations for no insurance, FTA, etc... She was for sure a dumbazz. That's not in question. If the cop had made a mention of smelling weed when he pulled her, I'd get it. He didn't. It was a bullchit "fishing" stop and he escalated the encounter for no apparent reason other than he got his feelings hurt. This whole thing is a giant waste of money and resources. well as long as its all about money. Don't get off about my little supposition. Whiner's have been pulling it the whole thread with the "all about the cigarette" BS, so I'm allowed a little poetic license. Apparently everyone else's "what if's" are of greater credence than mine. I get it. Sorry to interrupt the rhythm.
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I'm still laughing that in Texas you can be arrested for any traffic infraction. Actually you can't for speeding and having an open container. But you can for everything else. Does it ever happen? Only if you are a stupid idiot who can't or won't follow simple directions that even a caveman could follow. She failed to follow a lawful order. Simple as that.
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Another nine pages of he said/she said that's not worth reading - BTW, I think the OP just intended to show how events can get spun by the media....
My wife was stopped the other day for changing lanes without signaling. Her and I both agreed it was a BS stop by one of our little town rookie cops that looks like he's 12 years old. She chose not to mouth off, not to get hauled off to the pokey, and didn't ask for a trash bag when she got home so she could hang herself.
Regardless of whether you experience of of America's less than stellar LEs, believe it or not, you still have some say in your destiny.
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