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I'm going to touch on this and let you do your own info search... I have received a phone call with regards to PSA co plete rifles being sold with imported ( Chinese) internals and BCG that are suffering cracks due to improper heat treating. I won't say from whom or how this info came to me, just that I consider it to be reliable. I consider him to be reliable and in a position to know.
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Just did a Google search and the only mentions of bolt carrier issues with PSA are several years old and nothing on PSA using Chinese internals.
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Their premium BCG that was on sale for $89 states that it's made in the US on the BCG.
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Sounds like someone just wants to trash PSA.
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PSA Premium BCG's are made to Mil Spec standards. They are GTG!
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I'm going to touch on this and let you do your own info search... I have received a phone call with regards to PSA co plete rifles being sold with imported ( Chinese) internals and BCG that are suffering cracks due to improper heat treating. I won't say from whom or how this info came to me, just that I consider it to be reliable. I consider him to be reliable and in a position to know. Nice grenade launch without having to substantiate anything.
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Whatever, I'm from SC and own older PSA stuff...almost went to work for them once. I have nothing to gain trashing them and I have 100% confidence in the source. So its your money. But I'll hold back. They, PSA, are tring to fix the problem but the executive response was to ask my course if the items could be salvaged by heat treating. Forgive me for attempting to pass along some Intel... GFY!
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So if they have sold BCG with improper heat treating as your first post stated:
1) Where are the reviews online?
2) What good will heat treating bolts already sold and cracked do?
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I'm going to touch on this and let you do your own info search...
I take it that was supposed to be, "I'm going to touch on this so do not do your own info search." based on the GFY that you handed out after I did the info search?
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So if they have sold BCG with improper heat treating as your first post stated:
1) Where are the reviews online?
2) What good will heat treating bolts already sold and cracked do? This was an internal issue that was brought up among a handful of PSA employees and couple people they came to looking for answers. #2 it won't fix anything and that's what they were told.
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Whatever, I'm from SC and own older PSA stuff...almost went to work for them once. I have nothing to gain trashing them and I have 100% confidence in the source. So its your money. But I'll hold back. They, PSA, are tring to fix the problem but the executive response was to ask my course if the items could be salvaged by heat treating. Forgive me for attempting to pass along some Intel... GFY! I can totally understand where you are coming from. I have same info at times, and won't divulge it other than trust me if you want to. I know the data is good but you'd have to trust me. Worth the info for sure! Appreciate it. Anyone can get bad stuff. Happens to em all at times. Its how the folks handle the issues that matters most.
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There's a lot more to a BCG than just saying that it's "mil-spec". What about the quality of the spring used for the extractor? What about the quality of the staking for the gas key? Those are things that matter, a lot. Probably more than the steel used in the carrier.
And in my experience of one, PSA sucks balls for extractor springs. Just printing "MPI" in the advertisement doesn't necessarily make it quality.
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I run PSA bolts in 2 different guns, probably a combined 3500 rounds. Both bolts good to go. I would have no problems running another one.
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I run PSA bolts in 2 different guns, probably a combined 3500 rounds. Both bolts good to go. I would have no problems running another one. Assuming you didn't just run 3k of ammo today your rifles probably are not CURRENT...as the title of the thread indicates. Therefore your addition to the conversation is, in a word, irrelevant.
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Are these bolts in question going in a certain line of rifles such as the "Freedom" line, or are all their bolts sourced from China?
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RW, I just received my first and only AR. Of course it was/is a PSA Freedom rifle kit. You can PM if you have any Intel that will help a newbie AR owner.
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Straight from the horses mouth:
"Thank you for your responses. Not only do we not use Chinese bolts, but it is our understanding that there is a federal law against importing firearms and their parts from China. This is just another unfounded gun show rumor. Palmetto State Armory"
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Outstanding. I'm glad my friend of 20 years has decided to lie for no reason. Enjoy your rifles.
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One company, Wotech Industrial Co., Ltd of Shandong, China took note of the panic buying and and the increased interested in DIY firearms from consumers unable to purchase a gun or unable to afford the guns that were available to purchase. Wotech is advertising 80% forge AR-15 lower receivers for $50 a piece. The company says that is has the ability to supply 3000 tons of AR-15 lowers per year. - See more at: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...80-ar-15-receivers/#sthash.gFU3NOCh.dpufI googled this up in .2 seconds.
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Some countries cannot import to the US. IIRC my chinese AK polytech is now illegal to import.
Not sure what applies here.
But just because its Chinese its only cheap if the folks wanting to import them want it cheap. Chinese can make exactly what you want, you just have to pay for it.
The middle man is what makes almost all chinese stuff cheap.
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