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HOW MUCH DOES GROUP SIZE MATTER?

I know. I live with a few million people and get access to a 100 yard range for 11 months of the year. I build rifles for myself and test them there. They when I go hunting 900 miles from here I may set up targets all the way to 550 yards.

The problem is, for 11 months of the year group size is the only feed back I have.

Interesting read though...

16Bore,
ALL your posts are interesting:)


Back in the 1950s my father was getting design contracts for guns with a copy of Hayes Elements of Ordnance in his hand written in the 30s.

I don't understand most of that book, nor most of my father's gun patents, but I am learning how to keep them in the 10 inch circle out to 500 yards instead of 400 yards.. practice.

I can't say that these tiny "one hole groups" will make yoi odds of dropping game any better than a rifle that shoots MOA groups, but I can tell you that is fun shooting highly accurate rifles and for me, it is just a confidence builder knowing that the gun is taken out of the equation. IMO words, no excuses for the rifle when misses occur. Besides, it's a lot more fun shooting sub-moa rifles at the range especially when you rolled your own ammo too.

Size does matter. Hitting what you are aiming at also helps.....

Let's FLIP the coin.

Consistently shooting 'tiny' groups does NOT HURT you when hunting.

Does it ?

I know someone who checks his rifle every year.
A Rem 700 30-06 he paid $75 for.
Loaded with 180 gr Sierra flat base bullets.
He shoots a 1" 3 shot group at 100 yards at the pit.
Then we hunt.
When he sees a buck at 350 yards, he shoots and shoots, and the buck stands there looking at him.
Then he sees a buck crossing the road and shoots it at 50 yards.

I am always inviting him to shoot long range with me, but his groups are so good, he thinks everything is ok. He always gets his buck, his groups are small, what's MY problem, anyway?

That page might explain the 2 together, 1 out, 3 shot group conundrum.

The box of 270 CorLokts I bought my father in law 3 years ago is still sitting in the door pocket of his truck. The ONE empty case that was his "sighter" last year is probably still rolling around the dashboard.

There still might be about 14 rounds left.

Now that's some funny stuff.....

One that surprised and delighted me:



It's the most accurate big bore I've ever seen.

I'd give you $500. bill, sight unseen!





Joking...but serious if you're interested. <G>

I have a Remington Varmint 223 that does very well. It was bad when I bought it and turned out to be the HS Precision stock had a problem in he aluminum bedding block. I put it a stock I had made years earlier for another 700V and I made it single shot and glassed it in with the single shot adapter glued in. Gave the HS stock away. From the very first day in this stock this rifle has shot really well for a stock barrel. This stock is wood but I like it painted and touch up is easy. Here it has a 6-18 Leupold on it.

Here is some pennies at a 100yds. 2 shots each except the last was three. I should have not shot the three at the last with the barrel hot.

My wife can shoot this rifle well to. She shot the shot shell hulls at a 100yds. a couple weeks ago. I started teasing her for not hitting the primer center. She had one high and one below. She said alright smart --- hit these pistol empties. So I had to make a smaller holes in the cardboard box and then we went back and the barrel was cool then and I shot the two 44 Mag. empties and we walked out and 1 was inside the box and one behind it and she looked at them and said "I quit."

That is some shooting! Nice job.

CZ550 Premium, 270 WCF.

And thats a proper scope too!

It has a C weight barrel, and weighs right at 9lbs, as shown with the Leupy scope. Turnbull told me less than 100 were made in that caliber. I've seen maybe 4 of 5 of them, and it has good wood, the best I've seen in that variation.

The .475 Turnbull has about 5% less case capacity than the .458 Win mag, so it's realistic to drive 500's at 2100+ fps, which matches the .470 Nitro. That load above runs about 1875. I have some .475 dia hard cast bullets for it, which would be dandy for anything on this continent, at milder speeds.

So for several reasons it's the best big bore I own. It would have to be a ridiculously good trade or profit for me to bite.

Early Sako L461 Vixen Sporter, 222 Rem....

I'm thinking my RAR Predator in 6.5 CM will be a one holer if I ever get a chance to shoot it during a calm period at the range... Here's a link to some recent groups using plain old Sierras: RAR Predator 6.5CM Groups w/Varget & Sierra 120SPT

I had a Ruger M77 Ultralight in .223 Rem 20 years ago that was a surprisingly accurate one hole shooter but as with so many rifles over years I sold it to some lucky dude that I don't even remember...Ha!............Hb