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Shooting a Tikka T3 SL
All shot impacts were at 100 yds into stacked hard cover books.
Sierra 120 Pro Hunter...mv 3,300 mv...penetrated 6" completely shattered bullet fragmented into nothing.
Nosler 120 Ballistic Tip...3,350 mv ..penetrated 7" completely
shattered bulled fragmented, nothing but tiny shards.
Barnes 120 TTSX...3,500 mv, two shots, both penetrated 8.5"
119 grains for both bullets .55 for the first bullet.
.34 for the second bullet.
The second bullet on its way in shed its claws in the form of a circular ring at 6.5" and continued on to 8.5".
Never seen this happen before.
Bullet pathways were both bowed by a couple of inches, not straight.
Pretty impressed with the TTSX. I don't think it would be my first or second choice for elk but have no doubts it would do the job.
I can't say that for the Nosler BT.
Sierra advertises its 120 Pro hunter for medium velocities at deer size game and calls it a varmint bullet for the 7 mag. It is.
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No surprises here but push the other two bullets to the same speed as the TTSX and let's see what penetration they get.
I've put the old TSX thru several elk, all at less than 40 yds, at nearly the same velocity as you posted and have never recovered one. It's a tough bullet that does the job of bullet much larger. The TSX BC isn't impressive so lobing them accross a canyon might not be the best choice. But they get it done.
Thanks again for the info!
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So the 120 TTSX penetrated with the 175's? I'm not surprised. The 140 and 150 TSX in my experience leave the 120 in the dust.
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Some more random weight bullet test I just completed.
Barnes 145 LRX 3,275 mv...penetrated 9 3/4" weighed 98.0 grains.
.43 width Lost its petals going in at 8.5"
This bullet impresses me, big time.
Nosler 150 BT 3,200 mv....penetrated 7 1/2" weighed 72.0 grains.
.66 width. A tough CC bullet for a BT.
Berger 168 Hunting VLD 3,120 mv...penetrated 9.0" weighed 47.0 grains. And one bullet went 10.5"
Something interesting here for the Berger. Using Redding dies I loaded one with the regular seater and then loaded one with a VLD seater.
Of the bullets I've tested I shoot two and for the most part all have penetrated the same and behave the same except for the Bergers.
The VLD seated bullet penetrated less.
Nothing conclusive but something to look further into.
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This is great info. Thanks for doing this.
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I assume the 7mm rem mag.
What was your load for the 145 Barnes lrx? I'm going to start work up with these soon.
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Your tests confirm what I am seeing with the 180 Scenar and the 168 Berger. My 168s are the Hybrid Hunters. Once I run out of the Bergers, I'll switch to nothing but the 180 scenars in our 7mm Remingtons just to make it easier.
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There is nothing better than the 180 Bergers in the 7mags.
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145LRX @ 500 = 36.8" drop, 15.5" drift 10mph, 2312 FPS
168VLD @ 500 = 38.1" drop, 12.2" drift 10 mph, 2388 FPS
Pretty impressive.....
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There is nothing better than the 180 Bergers in the 7mags. I'd personally pick a 160 Accubond or Partition.
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There is nothing better than the 180 Bergers in the 7mags. I'd personally pick a 160 Accubond or Partition. OK, that works too. The 180 Bergers are just the ticket for long range killing of medium to bigger stuff; they are very accurate, penetrate deeply and kill well.
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I have used the Barnes 120's on Roosevelt Elk and a few African plains game animals. At moderate ranges they are a terrific 7mm bullet. My brother in law used my 120 Barnes 7mm loads to take a black bear and made his longest shot on a big game animal, taking a good Mule Deer buck at a lazered 608 yards. The bullet did as good as any could have out at that range, penetrating fully and breaking a shoulder on the far side of the deer.
This year I am shooting 120gr Barnes TTSX's at deer, but out of a 264 WinMag. Pretty decent BC of, IIRC, .468 or so. I drew a cow elk tag for near here so may use this load on the cow as well.
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Their website says .412. Which means most likely, it's lower.
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Their website says .412. Which means most likely, it's lower. Hmmm... I will have to look at that, the Midway site listed higher than that.
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This says .443 so we were both off a little. You may have been looking at the 7mm version when I was speaking of my new to me deerblaster in .264WM. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/85...lead-free-box-of-50?cm_vc=ProductFindingHigh enough BC to be a 500 yard bullet for me. I think I got my .468 number from the 127gr LRX 6.5 pill. Sorry to have moved the thread away from the 7mm discussions, did not mean to hijack. The Barnes 7mm 120's have done well for me and my family as I reported and are a pretty decent choice as I see it.
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Like the 160 gr Nosler Partition. Although am using a 160 gr Sierra GK in a 7x57 and a 140 gr NBT in a 7mm Dakota. Do use the 160 gr NP in my other 7x57.
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This says .443 so we were both off a little. You may have been looking at the 7mm version when I was speaking of my new to me deerblaster in .264WM. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/85...lead-free-box-of-50?cm_vc=ProductFindingHigh enough BC to be a 500 yard bullet for me. I think I got my .468 number from the 127gr LRX 6.5 pill. Sorry to have moved the thread away from the 7mm discussions, did not mean to hijack. The Barnes 7mm 120's have done well for me and my family as I reported and are a pretty decent choice as I see it. You've never been "sorry" for anything you've done a day in your life.
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Shooting a Tikka T3 SL
All shot impacts were at 100 yds into stacked hard cover books.
Sierra 120 Pro Hunter...mv 3,300 mv...penetrated 6" completely shattered bullet fragmented into nothing.
Nosler 120 Ballistic Tip...3,350 mv ..penetrated 7" completely
shattered bulled fragmented, nothing but tiny shards.
Barnes 120 TTSX...3,500 mv, two shots, both penetrated 8.5"
119 grains for both bullets .55 for the first bullet.
.34 for the second bullet.
The second bullet on its way in shed its claws in the form of a circular ring at 6.5" and continued on to 8.5".
Never seen this happen before.
Bullet pathways were both bowed by a couple of inches, not straight.
Pretty impressed with the TTSX. I don't think it would be my first or second choice for elk but have no doubts it would do the job.
I can't say that for the Nosler BT.
Sierra advertises its 120 Pro hunter for medium velocities at deer size game and calls it a varmint bullet for the 7 mag. It is.
You'd have to really try to keep a 120NBT in an elk, dry paper/books doesn't tell any real story....though it's interesting and I appreciate you taking time to do the test Brett
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