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Randy, round baling hay barley this morning as soon as the dew blows off, get down here and help!




RO, if they aren't all a 3 way cross I would guess the brockle face hiding in the back would have to be the Simmental.




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If a Black bull breeds a Red cow, can the offspring come out either way of somewhere in between?





Yes, it could be black(most likely), red or reddish brown.

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RO, if they aren't all a 3 way cross I would guess the brockle face hiding in the back would have to be the Simmental.




Good eye, Sam. Plus the three that are with her. They came into the herd together and they stick together.


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If a Black bull breeds a Red cow, can the offspring come out either way of somewhere in between?
It's like breeding labs. You have dominant black and recessive yellow. If both parents carry the recessive yellow, you can have both black and yellow pups in the same litter. Other genes control the shading of black or yellow to give chocolate, red, white, etc.
With Angus, you have dominant black and recessive red with other genes giving shading variations within those 2 colors. If both parents carry the recessive red gene, if the cow should twin it's possible to have both black and red calves.


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thank God you're round baling Sam


they were just coming into vogue when I left the farm.



when we got our own hay put up, I hired out to a crew to haul hay (mostly for large dairy operations)


.02.5 cents a bale,, yessir 2.5 cents a bale, if we hauled a 1000 bales in I made $25 dollars!


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it got a tad warm in the top of those metal hay barns in the summer when we were stacking it up high


and we hated the farmers that bailed so tight that the bales were closer to 80 lbs. than 60, but we hauled their stuff just the same


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I hated, hated, hated, baling hay (and assorted weeds, all with considerable water content/weight) - nostrils filled with dust and chaff, wrists raw from stems poking them, pissed-off bumble bees in the bales looking for revenge (and finding it), mows that were in fact an Easy-Bake oven in some young giantess's play-room. Just the smell when driving by a field of fresh-cut hay is enough to ruin my mood.


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We had a simmental bull when I was younger and he liked to roam. He would push through the fence and look for more cows. I had to ride the river and chase him back a dozen times. We finally sold him and bought a bull that was more of a home-body. I can't even remember what the new bull was. Never had to go find him though!


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we hated the farmers that bailed so tight that the bales were closer to 80 lbs. than 60, but we hauled their stuff just the same
I bucked hundreds of tons of hay when I was a kid. We also hated the 80lb bales. But then they invented the bale wagon and bale weight jumped to as heavy as 120 sometimes. They were made to be stacked by machine but they sure weren't fed by machine. Those things were responsible for lots of back injuries. Now they have the ton bales which save the backs. They're so big that they can only be handled by machine so nobody has to wrestle them.


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I learned a lot on this thread. I always thought Angus beef was meat from a Scottish Highlander.


...no, that would be one of these...our stock of choice...15 month heifer pictured.... "Lean" meat is the word with this breed. They are half-goat, eat most anything.

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It used to be that beef with mostly red hides went for more than Hereford or black cows at the auction yard here in town.

The rancher who's branding crew I've helped on for more than two decades now has always used an Angus bull for the heifers as they've got a smaller head and sloping shoulder which results in easier calving on average.

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[Linked Image] Couple out behind the barn.

Our herd is predominantly Angus, with a few crosses mixed in. Also we usually buy Angus and Angus crosses, for the feedlot. They finish out nice for us, grade well and can bring a little premium (certified Angus beef) when we send them.

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I remember working for a Canadian farmer loading bales when I was a kid. His daughter Pauline drove the tractor in a red blouse, and when she turned around to see where to stop, it looked like that damned blouse was going to explode. Can't remember the size of the bales, or how much we got paid, or if the barn was hot.

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Neat pic Ben, beautiful country for angus.

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we hated the farmers that bailed so tight that the bales were closer to 80 lbs. than 60, but we hauled their stuff just the same
I bucked hundreds of tons of hay when I was a kid. We also hated the 80lb bales. But then they invented the bale wagon and bale weight jumped to as heavy as 120 sometimes. They were made to be stacked by machine but they sure weren't fed by machine. Those things were responsible for lots of back injuries. Now they have the ton bales which save the backs. They're so big that they can only be handled by machine so nobody has to wrestle them.


I had a great Uncle that wanted to save twine so he set the baler up to 75# and expected us kids to wrestle them around. Dad found out about it and told him if he didn't lighten the bales he would not send his kids over to help.

My kids were fortunate, for several years I baled everything with a kicker baler. Later I bought a round baler but still use a kicker baler for a supply of small bales to feed out flakes to horses and to take with us on overnight camping and rides with the horses.

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Originally Posted by SamOlson
Neat pic Ben, beautiful country for angus.


Likewise, I always enjoy checking out everyone's pics.

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Nice pic, Ben. Looks alot like the country around here.

Black Angus is the predominate breed here on the farm for some of the reasons you stated, however I am a sucker for a good deal at the sale barn and will purchase other breeds. A recent example was 12 bred Red Angus mama cows owned by an elderly gentlemen farmer came through the sale barn last fall. They did not bid out very high. When they calved, two cows had twins. I made out like a bandit. grin

Any Red Angus in your area?


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Originally Posted by roundoak
Nice pic, Ben. Looks alot like the country around here.

Black Angus is the predominate breed here on the farm for some of the reasons you stated, however I am a sucker for a good deal at the sale barn and will purchase other breeds. A recent example was 12 bred Red Angus mama cows owned by an elderly gentlemen farmer came through the sale barn last fall. They did not bid out very high. When they calved, two cows had twins. I made out like a bandit. grin

Any Red Angus in your area?


I can't think of anyone that has quite a few red Angus off the top of my head. I know one guy who has a whole herd of red limousine, which he says is pretty rare.

We usually buy our animals for the feedlot straight from the farm. We like to buy black, but if they're selling a few random breeds we'll take them if the price is fair. A quality animal that grows well is a the end goal.

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There are several red herds here that I know of.


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speaking of which, I've made a far above average living surrounded by good lookin gals in their child bearing years Sammo


and yet there's days I'm jealous as hell of the life you lead.

I know it's got plenty of hard work and worry involved, I haven't completely forgotten how it goes


grass always seems greener on the other side, but I hope in the big pic you're happy with your choice Sammo.


I really wished I'd have stayed on the farm and helped my grandad until he passed. There'd of still been plenty of time for me to live the life I wanted.

Sam can pretty well guarandamntee you, watching you work the ranch probably buys your dad an amount of happiness that's hard to put a price on.

(at least that's how I hope it is)


I left the farm in 1973. Dad had some angus and white faced Herefords. He was pretty happy with them and they were good back to him. Unfortunately he passed in 1978 and the cattle were sold. There have been none on the place since then. I envy you guys who are still producing beef. It's a good life even if there are some worries and issues.
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