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It makes more sense than other scenarios and is consistent with the govt's desire for us to be dependent on them.

I truly believe that you guys are RIGHT.

Steve

There are wolves there -always have been .
I lived near boise in 07-08 and predator hunted down there a lot -I called in a wolf early one morning .
Talked to a few old time trappers -ranchers -people who have lived there their whole life. No doubt about there being wolves in the region . I have seen their kills -mule deer and antelope only -seen their tracks all over the region by walking as much as 12+ miles in a day while predator calling.
I have seen this topic on this website before and will repeat what I wrote before -there are wolves in California by now -probably have been for many years.
I measured the mileage using google earth from sw idaho to ne california -about 275 miles as the crow fly's -so why wouldn't wolves be there.
They are in colorado -nevada -utah -new mexico -arizona .
The wolf worshippers and the gov't are liars -they have an agenda and are working towards it 24/7/365.

Unfortunately I agree with your assessment. I didn't start out life with this way, but the dots are so clearly marked it's impossible not to connect them and look at the picture that's revealed.

I don't blame the wolves for being wolves. But I DO blame the people with thinly veiled agendas who are using them as tools for the demise of our game mammal populations.

And not to completely hijack the thread, but since you've already got your tinfoil in place, I'd encourage you to research fluoride. It's industrial waste,(and scary schit) that's enjoyed a strong 70yr PR campaign.

SE Oregon contains some amazing country.

Idaho, and possibly SE OR, has had a small wolf population since time began. Under the Endangered Species Act, they should have been protected and propagated. Instead, the introduction program totally ignored the ESA and brought in a different subspecies that have bred the natives out of existence.

Wow, thanks Larry for those pics!

So ignoring the ESA and introducing a different species, the Govt did also expose their real agenda.

Years before the introduction got going, I read an article from one of the anti magazines that outlined their plan to use large predators to reduce game animals to unhuntable levels. It took them another 10 years go get enough of their people in places of power to get it done then all hell broke loose. I didn't keep the article as proof because I thought it was nonsense. I've kicked myself ever since because so many don't believe it's what they're doing.

3 years ago I did the spike only general tag in the Imnaha unit where we normally found elk. we had an overnight snow which helped to track animals in the area. We went about 200yrds from my truck when my friend said that looks like a big coyote, I said that is a wolf! Well it had a radio collar on it, which was the alpha female. She stood on the road for about a minute then walked up the hill out of sight. We both looked at each other in amazement, when I spotted a black wolf skirting below us and coming up behind us also sporting a collar, the alpha male. We stood back to back not knowing what was going to happen. Then another wolf came up in front of us and stood on the road about 30yrds away. The 308 Norma Mag was at the ready. The alpha female started howling for the pack to gather and they left. Of course we cut tracks of a bull kicking up snow as it was probably being chased by the pack. A well known bow maker in the county hunted the Wenaha unit for elk most set ups he called in wolves, and once was surrounded by wolves. He was not one to pack a pistol but said he would from now on. He spoke to other hunters in the unit and their story was the same, wolves every where. I talked to a biologist here and we talked about the impact on the herds in our area. He said the elk are there, they just go elsewhere to avoid the packs. No kidding the elk will go elsewhere! And the wolves will follow! That's why the wolves are chasing elk in every game unit in Wallowa County. Sorry for being long winded, but it is frustrating as all get out. Nuff said.

Trap em and turn em loose in downtown Portland.

Grew up there. Actually northern Nevada, but same same. You could walk for days and never run into civilization. Shooting Jacks and yotes in the sage everyday was just part of growing up there... Speaking of Wolves in Or. my hunting partner told me someone found a wolf track in our elk hunting area and that's pretty close to the Washington line as well... I didn't believe it, but he says they were pretty damned serious with their claim..

I remember back in my youth hunting up around timothy lake guys were "seeing" wolves hell had some friends swear they saw them. Someone got to doing some research and what they were seeing were those hybrids that were all the rave back in the day. Well those folks in good ol Portland realized hey these damn things are a handful lets go release them back into the wild. Well that's what people were seeing I guess the poor pooches didn't survive long up their without their bowl of dog food. I also heard there are brown bears up in the Jefferson wilderness area too had some Indian buds swear to it but I suspect they got into some of grandpa cough medicine and were seeing big ass black bears.

I know too many serious hunter and timber workers that have been consistently seeing them since the 60's. They were either never eradicated, or a decent number of high breds have been around for a good while.

They've been in Jefferson in decent numbers since the middle 90's.

I have seen and snuck up on Grey Wolves in the Imnaha in
1975 on a mating pair of Grey Wolves. It was early in the morning and I heard them growling playfully. And I quietly
snuck up on them. I was only about 30 ft from them when I spotted them with their beady eyes looking at me. Then they
run and disappeared in the trees. It was quite a sight at
that close to see. Momentarily they stared at me just as I
stared at them. I can still see them today and wish I
would have had a picture of them.

I couldn't see how to edit my post.
So I'll reply.

These were a Mating pair of Silver Grey Wolves.
Back when they were supposed to be extinct.
So it really was important then.

The grey wolf introduction was totally illegal because they bred the natives out of existence. The ESA was intended to protecte them, not killed them off.

There is incredible country allover E Or. Should check out the Steens in SE Oregon

Very remote area

These were Silver Greys and were long before
any reintroduction of wolves in the area.
So they were already there as native to the area,
and were not extinct at all.
I had seen wolves before but not the silver greys.

I'd seen wolves here in Idaho before the introduction, too. It just shows that the feds had an agenda and the laws protecting the species were totally ignored.

Vastness is all subjective. Oregon-Nevada border.

Lil' Owyhee last week. Lookin' East.

Looking West.