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Either you're using some 117-grain bullet other than a Ballistic, or simply typed the wrong weight. To my knowledge Nosler never has made a 117-grain .25-caliber Ballistic Tip.


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You are correct it was the Boat tails that was 117gr and 115gr on the ballistic tip.

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Interesting. I killed some animals with the Solid Bases in calibers from 6mm to .30 and found them on the hard side, even though muzzle velocities were all in the 2900-3000 fps range. Much preferred how Partitions in the same sizes killed, probably because of the relatively soft alloy they use in the front core.

Like a lot of people I wasn't crazy about the first Ballistic Tips, but they solved the problems and I like them a lot now. They tend to both kill quickly and penetrate well. Oh, and shoot accurately too!



I agree, they are harder- much harder than the first generation BTs. I killed more than a dozen coues whitetail with the 60 grain solid bases and quite a few other deer with 165 grain version in 30 caliber. I suspect that they are no better than modern day BTs but much cheaper- my biggest knock on the BTs.


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Find something bigger. I know it can be done, just think that elk deserve better.

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dennis,

Your post reminded me that I also used the 60-grain .224 Solid Bases as well as "big game" sizes from 6mm to .30. But I used it only in the .220 Swift on animals from prairie dogs to pronghorns. In fact it was my favorite .224 bullet for big game back then, probably because it was tough enough to hold together when started at 3650 fps. It killed antelope about like a typical 100-grain softpoint from a .243, leaving a quarter-sized exit hole and putting them down pretty quickly.

It worked fine on rockchucks as well, but prairie dogs didn't perform the usual Swift aerials....


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Good times. I thought the 22-250 was the best caliber in the world back then!


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Seriously I don't care. You'll never convince me that a cheap Nosler ballistic tip is a better performing bullet than what I use. Thank goodness for the internet and all it's accurate information that can be had in like 2 minutes. I've seen those bullets used in real world hunting situations. Accubond do well and so do partitions. Hornady SST's and Nosler BT's, not so much. Barnes works well for me, I stick with them.

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I always get a laugh out of the phrase "real world".. Like most of the guys are living in a fake world??


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WyoCoyoteHunter,

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I think lots of internet posters live in an imaginary world. Last summer someone told me they were going to kick my butt. So I told them I am 6'2", 240 pounds, twenty-five years old, been a Navy SEAL for ten years so come on. The very next post was by a guy from my town. He posted, "Didn't you just have a birthday yesterday? Aren't you 70?"

So much for the "real world" cramping my internet world.


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Originally Posted by Ringman
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I think lots of internet posters live in an imaginary world. Last summer someone told me they were going to kick my butt. So I told them I am 6'2", 240 pounds, twenty-five years old, been a Navy SEAL for ten years so come on. The very next post was by a guy from my town. He posted, "Didn't you just have a birthday yesterday? Aren't you 70?"

So much for the "real world" cramping my internet world.


LOL! Lots of truth about the 'net experts right there.


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the only difference between a 257 WBY. and a 25-06 is about 100 fps and I don't think the Elk will care at all. I have killed them with both rounds using a BT. and it did not look to me like the Elk could tell any difference

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Originally Posted by REDMAN
the only difference between a 257 WBY. and a 20-06 is about 100 fps and I don't think the Elk will care at all. I have killed them with both rounds using a BT. and it did not look to me like the Elk could tell any difference


Agree with everything you stated...except the 100 fps difference. You can get quite a bit more than that.

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I'm talking standard load, yes you can soup them both up and the speed difference will expand but how much harm are you doing to your barrel? Would it be worth it, if they can't tell the difference? It is not worth it to me.


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Originally Posted by REDMAN
I'm talking standard load, yes you can soup them both up and the speed difference will expand but how much harm are you doing to your barrel?


New barrels are made every day. If you shoot a barrel out, that's a good thing. Means the rifle actually got used.

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I'm talking standard load, yes you can soup them both up and the speed difference will expand but how much harm are you doing to your barrel?


New barrels are made every day. If you shoot a barrel out, that's a good thing. Means the rifle actually got used.


Yep. Plus I don't know many who load for a .257 Wby who put much thought into long term barrel life.

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A .257 Be will last about 1000 rounds if you range shoot it as well as hunt and if used ofr hunting only in the US, a lifetime and more is likely.

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It amazing how quick a 1000 rounds get spent:-)


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When i gave up Elk hunting i traded off my 257 WBY for a
25-06 TK3 with $500 boot,it's about 4lbs lighter, it does a good job. I could not be more pleased


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Originally Posted by REDMAN
It amazing how quick a 1000 rounds get spent:-)


If you’re worried about barrel life, a 25-06 isn’t a much better choice than a 257 Roy. Think 250 Savage, 260, 7mm-08, or something along those lines.

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