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1959, standard gun, 28 inch mod, un-cut, really good blue, like 95% + good. What do you guys hit that one at?
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95% Original: Plain barrel, field model.
Dealer: I would shoot for $500 and stop at $700.
Individual: I would stop at $500-$600.
Don't have to tell you, but compared to most of the stuff out there today-$1500 plus for Beretta gas guns for example-it would be a bargain even if you dug a little deeper.
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Thanks Battue, Im not quite that strong on value so Im guessing I got a deal.
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What you got is a really great pump shotgun. I haven't seen one close to that condition for some time. Post some pics when you get the time.
Have fun with it!!!!
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The Model 12's don't bring what they used to, but a 90 % or better should bring 500 easy. I like the Model 12 especially in 16 GA and 20 GA. My favorite of the Winchester pumps is the Mod 97.
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5 to 600 is good. subtract for any flaws. ensure serial numbers match.
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1959, standard gun, 28 inch mod, un-cut, really good blue, like 95% + good. What do you guys hit that one at? What Ga??? v best winpoor
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Unless it was a 28 doesn't make all that much difference. Passport knows his stuff well enough to snatch up any 28 for 5 to 6.
Perhaps a little more for a 20 and a little less around here for a 16. 12's with the exception of a nice trap gun, still the same.
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Unless it was a 28 doesn't make all that much difference. Passport knows his stuff well enough to snatch up any 28 for 5 to 6.
Perhaps a little more for a 20 and a little less around here for a 16. 12's with the exception of a nice trap gun, still the same. Roger that! If Im shooting migratory doves late season down here I use a mod 12, 12 ga 28" mod barrel, paid 450 many, many years ago.But Im usually a 16 ga guy.... v best win poor
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Dang good choice for the mature flyers that are being pushed by a tailwind. I also find 6's to be a good choice at that time.
We often get some late Birds passing thru and they have speed early Birds haven't found yet.
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Mr Batte, My Dad was an avid, shot every day of season but Sunday hunter, Ive seen him drop high birds and folks would say I be damned! I would ask him Dad how far did you lead him, he would say "as long as a whores dream!" Then he would say about "3 gun lengths son!!" He shot a 28 mod and 7.5 high brass 16 ga. We used to get Super X then he got a deal on Federals... good times, this new farming has em rolling the peanut hay and moving it out of the field, harrowing it right up and into a rye,wheat cover crop, dove shooting is nothing like it used to be here!!! I beat him one time in my entire life! 16 birds in 17 shots.... never again,and he told me as much! He did pay me a small compliment, he said" damn Bud you were ON today!" v best winpoor
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Im sitting here thinking of those old times! My Dad bought a big ole safe just to lock his shells up in to keep me out of them! But he would give em to me anyway, he said there was a difference in him handing them to me and me getting into em like a coon! Smoked Lucky Strikes and they killed him at 80! I know he killed his last deer at 79. Some way,some how he was able to be my Daddy AND best friend ........v best winpoor
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Had the good fortune to be invited to shoot Doves down around Thomasville on a place that gave them a reason to be there and there was a pile of them.
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Had the good fortune to be invited to shoot Doves down around Thomasville on a place that gave them a reason to be there and there was a pile of them. BINGO my friend, I lived on RL Irelands plantation for 5 years! Benny or Sesmie (sp?) seed, they did not care if they were going to die they came in and kept coming!!! We would run 3 old hogs and the game wardens or as my Dad called em possum cops could not do a thing but burn your azz for over the limit! I had a Chesapeake that would not loose a bird, my first female dog and Dam that bitch was mean as any bulldog thought about being! v best winbroke
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They also had Black Squirrels, and I mean beeeg Black Squirrels. Along with some huge black snake that made you think twice about getting close. Rattlers were not uncommon nor Cottonmouths. Then there were the Gators. One beeeg 9footer they said whose time had come. Addition: Since I was an invited guest I quit at the limit. We had a friendly talk about that.
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Same here unless the big man said nail em Ive got a lot of folks to feed! Then it was on!!!! 64 is my all, life time best!!! The heavy hitters go to Argentina and Bolivia now, My Dads partners son retired and put together hunts down there now, 1000 a day , 3 and 4 guns and boys picking them up and loading the guns! most shoot 20's but still come home beat up.... Im going one day, if I ever quit buying these dam Winchesters!!! vb winpoor
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Some friends have gone down. Said it is well worth the time and money for a fellow who loves shotgun shooting. Couple have shot way over a 1000/day. That seems like it would be work. I'm sure I would cut it back and just enjoy the shooting.
Always thought that may be an excellent Campfire group event for the shotgun crew.
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1959, standard gun, 28 inch mod, un-cut, really good blue, like 95% + good. What do you guys hit that one at? What Ga??? v best winpoor Right! How did I forget that? 12 bore. Should have time to get it tomorrow. I'll post pics when I do
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Passport your not far from me. I used to shoot registered skeet at club in Rockford. Looking forward to the pics of your M12, sounds like a nice gun. I had a 28ga skeet and let it go. One of those bad decisions we make I life.
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If U want to flip it and its nicer than the one I have I will upgrade! VB WinPoor
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Some friends have gone down. Said it is well worth the time and money for a fellow who loves shotgun shooting. Couple have shot way over a 1000/day. That seems like it would be work. I'm sure I would cut it back and just enjoy the shooting.
Always thought that may be an excellent Campfire group event for the shotgun crew.
This guy did a 91% shoot but he took his 20 101 OU and just picked each shot! With my eyes and glass now I would be happy with 60% vb winpoor
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I would have sucked that one up so fast you would have had a hard time lighting a fat striker match.
Nice grab. 👍
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LOL. I hear that. I tried to walk away. In fact I got in the truck and started to drive back to the office so I called and made an offer that there was no way in hell they would take and I be damned if they did. :-)
Now that its home I pretty happy, its REALLY clean. Ordered a right hand safety and a proper Glazan red Winchester pad to get the LOP just right.
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Very nice.. I am sure you will enjoy it..
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1959, standard gun, 28 inch mod, un-cut, really good blue, like 95% + good. What do you guys hit that one at? Passport, I reading full for the choke on that barrel. Makes no difference, I would have bought it anyway.
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Yea, I thought it was mod, didn't have my specks with me so all bets were off. Should still hammer roosters and trap targets. Plus its been my experience that these full are more like mod. I'll find out Saturday
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passport, it always seemed to me the opposite.. I always felt the old guns with full chokes were much tighter than screw in chokes.. One of the guys I shot trap with had an old model 12 restocked with a trap style stock.. That thing just destroyed birds at distances the modern shotgun would only break.. let us know what you find..
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Nice snag passport,great condition. I picked a field gun up like that last fall,not quite as nice a condition as that more like 85-90 %. 960,xxx range 12 ga 26" plain barrel IC choke really like the way it handles got it for $380 and thought it was a buy. Magnum_Man
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Nice snag passport,great condition. I picked a field gun up like that last fall,not quite as nice a condition as that more like 85-90 %. 960,xxx range 12 ga 26" plain barrel IC choke really like the way it handles got it for $380 and thought it was a buy. Magnum_Man You did very well. Shorter barreled guns with little original choking bring premium. Rightfully so, because they can be used with: steel shot (soft iron), Tungsten steel and Hevishot. The shells will have to be of 70mm length. There is big price difference between 25 pack of Winchester steel from Walmart and 10 pack of HeviShot Classic doubles, Tungsten Matrix or Bismuth shot.
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passport, it always seemed to me the opposite.. I always felt the old guns with full chokes were much tighter than screw in chokes.. One of the guys I shot trap with had an old model 12 restocked with a trap style stock.. That thing just destroyed birds at distances the modern shotgun would only break.. let us know what you find.. Bingo, it will shoot like a mod 70! Turkey and goose gun!! very best WinPoor
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Passport, that is a really nice looking Model 12. You done good!
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Shot 2 lines of trap with the old M-12 today, I still say that the full is not not as full as one would expect. Its tight but not like my 870TC. That said it will SMOKE a trap target!
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This 12 ga was made in 1920. I paid $160 a year ago from a gunshow table. I could not talk him down at all. When I live out in the sticks, I had a neighbor in 1984 that had collected all the model 12s. He said the 28 ga had been hard to find. He got divorced. She was screaming mad at him. They moved away. 10 years later new owners were clearing forest for a horse arena and started finding rusty old guns and hung them on the wall in their barn.
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Guys U have to remember when pricing and collecting mod 12's .They are not like model 70's ,,, Winchester made what 600K ,70's and IIRC 3 million 12's... Trust me my favorite shotgun is a mod 12 ,nickle steel 16 ga in cly bore. A bobwhite killing machine that points like magic! ( back before eyes went to $hit!) v best winpoor
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Guys U have to remember when pricing and collecting mod 12's .They are not like model 70's ,,, Winchester made what 600K ,70's and IIRC 3 million 12's... Trust me my favorite shotgun is a mod 12 ,nickle steel 16 ga in cly bore. A bobwhite killing machine that points like magic! ( back before eyes went to $hit!) v best winpoor The sixteen gauge Model 12 is ok upland gun, but early field grade 12ga Ithaca 37 is far better small bird shotgun. Same weight, excellent handling and less expensive to buy.
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