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What do you want to know? Accurate, 24 inch barrel with 1:220mm (1:866 in) twist, excellent bluing, horrible stock finish from factory (I applied 7 coats of TimberLuxe inside and out, boiled linseed oil as needed afterward: better now)...not sure what else to say.

Some communist round...

2 pounds isn't going to happen, contrary to what you hear on the innernet.... Just sayin..

Crud!

Did it come with iron sights?

How much was it?

Did you get a choice of triggers i.e. standard,double trigger and the one you push forward to set it to a lighter pull ala CZ?

Yes it came with irons. There were two stock configurations, and two trigger options: monte carlo or hog back, single or double trigger. The single trigger is a standard adjustable trigger, not a set as CZ. And unless you have a face like a cadaver, the irons aren't entirely useful with the monte carlo. They might be with the hog back, but that's not the one I have. The barrel contour is light with a muzzle diameter .556, as in the Featherweight. As for the cost, I don't remember. $500 NIB maybe?

Euphemism for 280 Remington..........

MM

Rev,in the 2015 catalog they have a choice of triggers,with the set trigger ( like CZ has) as an option.

http://www.zastava-arms.rs/en/civilianproduct/sporting-rifle-m70-standard

Thanks Rev.

The reason I'm asking is I have 7mm bullets from 100 gr all the way up to 175 gr. The 2-7x57's already have a load worked up and don't want to change. So,gonna get another and just shoot these bullets for plinking,varmints and big game.

Rev,what you think of the "American?"

http://www.zastava-arms.rs/sites/de...ting_and_sporting_firearms/index.html#/6

Elk:

The model I have is the standard with monte carlo stock. It has a standard adjustable trigger. The CZ type single set trigger must be something new.

The bluing on the rifle is very good, but the finish on the stock looks like it was applied using a single, well-used Lipton tea bag. Several coats of TimberLuxe and some touch-ups with boiled linseed oil have revealed some pretty nice wood, though. The checkering is pretty poor but, again, we're not dealing with a custom rifle. Oddly enough, the 14.5 inch LOP fits me very well, so I haven't had anything done to it other than changing out the pad, bedding the action, and floating the barrel. I've toyed with this rifle being the start of a semi-custom (slimmed down stock, quarter rib, etc), but so far haven't pursued it.

One item that you might want to consider: I don't know who is importing Zastava right now. FIME/K-Var out of Las Vegas was the importer, but I don't know if they still are. It might be worth a note to both Zastava and FIME to see. The last time I looked, K-Var still had a couple of models but no 7x57s.

Thanks Rev.

Century arms and Fime are the importers for Zastava.

A 14.5 LOP dang,made for Ingwe or gorillas.

Or guys who are 6'1" with 34 inch sleeves.

I'm 6'1" don't know how long my sleeve is though.

Elk:

An interesting side comment regarding LOP: Just about all of the Rigby and WR rifles I see on the various broker sites have LOPs in excess of 14 inches, mostly right around 14.5; and that includes their "magazine" rifles. I sent a note to Simon Clode of Westley Richards to ask about that, and he confirmed that we "across the pond" tend to like our stocks in the sub-14 inch range, while most of the British makers (as well as most other European makers) tend to extend beyond 14 inches, mostly settling between 14.125 and 14.5.

Frankly, I find the longer stocks more comfortable to shoot; but again, I'm 6'1" with a 34 inch sleeve. Couple that with the fact that I'm rarely in more than one layer of clothing, or two light layers, and it seems to make sense for me in the environment in which I hunt. As a matter of fact, I have even begun using a PAST recoil shield when shooting either my MRC ASR (13.625 in.) or M70 (13.75 in), not for recoil reduction, but to add about a half inch to the LOP. Again, it simply feels more comfortable to me in my environment. If I was hunting in snow and/or 30 degree weather, I might think differently.

Mike,

Thanks for the tip about Ernie. I didn't even know he was around. I ordered a couple of his 77/22 springs, one for my RSI and another for the trigger on my 1948 FN which is, to the eye anyway, the same size. Both have Wolffe 77/22 springs, but I had to clip them for weight and a lighter rate, full length spring seems better and safer to me.

I figure for $7, it's worth a try before swapping out an entire trigger unit. I may also contact Ernie to see if they are planning to make one of their varmint springs for the MOA. That is supposed to bring the pull down to between 1.75 and 2.5 pounds. That's a range I'm comfortable with.

Rev.
If you are talking about the trigger return spring….

The place to start is your local hardware store, remove the trigger return spring and take it with you to town.

Go to your favorite hardware store and they will have a display case full of springs, pick one the right diameter with finer wire, pick several they are about fifty cents each.

Cut one to length and try it, repeat until you get what you want, this spring keeps the sear engaged while you are slamming the action around so not to light.


So for cheap you can have the one that pleases you, besides it is a good way to fiddle away an hour or two on Saturday.

I've thought about that; just not terribly confident that I know enough about what I'm doing!

It is a learning experience, after your done slam the bolt a few times to make sure it works OK.

If you don't like what you have done you can replace the original spring or order the after market one.

It is not hard.

I tried the timney replacement trigger and it was horrible(maybe i just got a bad one but it was junk)I even ended up stoning the timney and it didnt help. I bought the ernie trigger spring and it was about the same as the timney in pull weight(but only cost $7)around 2.5lbs. I started playing with stoning the sear and trigger. I used an ultra fine stone and it made a world of difference. I think it was still around 2.5lbs but very crisp.

But IMHO the MOA is junk BACO messed up big time by changing the trigger. The older M70 triggers are awesome if you know what your doing to adjust them. I use ernies varmint springs on the older triggers then stone to take the creep out.