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Anybody interested in doing a second AR challenge?

This time we can test a different set of skills, but it'll still be a challenge of both the shooter and equipment.

All strings will be shot standing, unsupported. If you want to sling up you can, but you've gotta do it on the clock. The idea is to test your ability to quickly react to a threat, not shoot tiny groups from a super stable position. The target sizes are generous and realistic for a defensive use of your AR.

The starting position for all strings will be with a loaded AR at the low ready position (rifle on safe, finger off the trigger, the buttstock can be tucked into your shoulder but the muzzle has to be lowered to the height of your belt line).

You'll need a shot timer. If you don't have one you can download one for free on a smartphone OR just get a buddy to say "go" and time you with a stopwatch OR count Mississippis in your head while you shoot for all I care, but you really ought to let everyone know if that's how you did it.

I'm not going to be as much of a stickler for the rules as we were for the last competition, mostly because I'm not much of a rules stickler kind of guy. And because these drills are more about getting people out of their comfort zone and trying something that they probably don't do much of.

Take pictures of the targets for each string and tell us about / post a pic of the gun you used.

Scoring

I'll separate scores into Magnified Optics, Non-Magnified Optics (red dots) and Irons.

I'll keep separate lists of winners for each string. So if you can't complete the 50 yards course of fire, submit your times for everything else and then just post your 50 yards times when you can get it done.

After a few weeks (or whenever it looks like everyone that wants to has given it a try) I'll compile the final scores as follows:
The fastest time for each course of fire gets 100 points.
Everyone else is a percentage of that 100 points.
For example:
-If TWR shoots the 50 yard string in 10 seconds and has the fastest time, he gets 100 points.
--If I shoot that 50 yard string in 12 seconds, I get 83 points (10 divided by 12 is .83).
Everyone is graded on a curve, based on the fastest shooter here.

***Scoring like this involves more math, but it evens the playing field for someone who has one really bad string.***

The person with the most points from all three strings "wins".

You can complete the entire challenge with one thirty round magazine.
If you don't want to print 8" circle targets, use your kids protractor to draw an 8" circle on a paper plate. Or just fold a sheet of paper up to an 8" square.

The courses of fire will be as follows:

100 yards at a torso-ish size target (12x24 or smaller)
On the buzzer, hit the target ONCE and record your time.
Repeat that FIVE times and add all five times together.
***You can shoot as many times as you need to. But the time doesn't stop until you've hit the target.***

50 yards at an 8" circle or square
On the buzzer, fire TWO shots at the target and record your time.
Repeat that FIVE times and add all five times together.
***Only hits count. You've gotta shoot it clean. If you find shots outside of the 8" target, you've gotta repeat the 50 yard portion until you shoot it clean.***

25 yards at an 8" circle or square.
On the buzzer, fire ONE shot at the target and record your time.
Repeat that FIVE times and add all five times together.
***Again, you've gotta shoot it clean***

7 yards at a 3" circle
On the buzzer, fire FIVE shots at the circle and record your time.

On the buzzer, fire ONE shot at the circle and record your time. Repeat this five times.

Add ALL of your times from 7 yards together.
***Again, you've gotta shoot it clean***

Sounds good, I'm already in the lead!

You bastids are making me want an AR even more and more!!!!!

Sounds like a good challenge. I'll have to find a range that would actually let me shoot it, however.

Shoot it with a lever gun or a .22 or even a pistol. Where there's a will there's a way.

12 inch x 24 inches at 100 yards can you use a "barricade" to shoot off the sides of or does it have to be free hand.

If you miss you shoot it over again and add that time to your total?

Oh yeah, sounds like fun.

Do we get extra points if our groups are "MOA all day long?"

My original intent was to shoot it without any sort of barricade.

But that's probably a stretch for people who don't practice those shots a lot. And I don't want to write the rules to cater to what I practice. I'll edit it in a little while.

The guys who can shoot it standing will have a time advantage, but may not get five hits in a row as consistently and might have to keep trying. It'll work itself out.

Freehand at 100, if it doesn't challenge you then what good is it?

Sounds like fun.

Likely at the rate our trip to AK is creeping up on us, I won't be able to play until after I get back and arrow the 10 point here at home, then I'll see what I can come up with.

Even if I'm late to the party.

Good idea!

And I agree, freehand at 100, we can all embarrass ourselves.

OK, TWR and Jeff agree with no support at 100. I'll leave it. 12x24 is a BIG target.

I like the no support rule at 100. As you say, 12x24 is pretty big. I'll be embarrassed if I miss it.

I am more of a hide behind something a bullet cannot penetrate kind of guy before shootin but I will shoot it freehand. If you miss you have to shoot it again and count the time correct? Is a hit 1 inch from the edge a hit?

Yep. A hit anywhere on the target counts.

Timer goes beep / Partner says go
Shoot until you get a hit. Time stops when you get a hit.
-(if you're shooting on paper you might have to check the target after each shot to ensure you hit unless you can call your shots)

Same / Same with the 8" and 3" targets. A 2" group on an 8" target doesn't help your score.

This drill is about getting a good enough shot right now rather than a perfect shot too late.

Sounds good. I agree that offhand is the way to roll.



Travis

I have a 12x24" chunk of steel plate. Shooting steel would make detecting hits at 100 easier. I assume you'd have no problem with the steel versus paper?

Steel is what I'm using. Gonna paint it first song can still take a pic of the hits.

Its big, but under time, you have to learn HOW to shoot things like this.

Its not unlike bullseye offhand though, as long as its going to fall a 10, you generally don't care, and try to break the shot clean right then. As SOON as you know its coming.

If I could have ever figured out leading into a target I would have been unstoppable IMHO in offhand... I never could get it down reliably enough.

Should be fun!