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I was browsing a gun store today and looking at their selection of single action 45 LCs. I shook hands with a New Style Ruger Vaquero then a Uburty and lastly a Cimarron. I really want an Old Style Vaquero or a Flattop but I was just looking today so I thought what the heck.

First impression ite CAS guns are a little small for my hand but I could live with it if I had to. What really surprised me was the feel and fit of the Cimarron. I know Uburty makes them bot oh what a difference.


Question, does any one shoot one and if so what do you think?


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Originally Posted by Scott F
I was browsing a gun store today and looking at their selection of single action 45 LCs. I shook hands with a New Style Ruger Vaquero then a Uburty and lastly a Cimarron. I really want an Old Style Vaquero or a Flattop but I was just looking today so I thought what the heck.

First impression ite CAS guns are a little small for my hand but I could live with it if I had to. What really surprised me was the feel and fit of the Cimarron. I know Uburty makes them bot oh what a difference.


Question, does any one shoot one and if so what do you think?
I've owned and shot both the Vaquero and a litany of Uberti's of various distributors. Cimarron puts out a very good weapon rivaling any Colt SAA. The Ruger is a great gun too but not as finely made as the best Uberti's. The Ruger isn't an SAA clone, which you know, so that is a strike against if the person wants a historically accurate rendition. The Vaquero is a stronger gun-so that is a big plus if you're wanting to shoot heavy loads. The Vaquero is bigger, which would be a plus for you but not for many others. The New Vaquero is a different animal in that it is no stronger than an Uberti clone, and is possibly not as strong. The NV is more petite also, a plus for some, but not for you.

Personally, I would rather have a good Uberti than either Vaquero. They will all suffice.

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Much hoopla is made of the Ruger Bisley on the Campfire. I have owned three. I still own one. They are a great gun. That said, so are the Italian Bisley clones. I have the Beretta Bisley and it is excellent. It shoots where it points with my favorite handloaded 45 Colt cartridges. It is just like radar once you have it in your hands. It has funky hard rubber grips with the Beretta logo on them that are not "Colt-true" but look that way at casual glance and grow on you. I would not leave this out of any gun along these lines, that I was considering.

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This is a Cimarron. They don't "make" revolvers. They use Italian parts and assemble revolvers. Some are Uberti. Some older ones like this, are made from ASM parts. The above group was fired at 10 yards, right hand only, duelist style. 5 rounds.


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Cimarron doesn't assemble either. They import finished guns.

If you think the grip is too small, you gotta tuck that pinky under as Sam Colt and God intended.

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Originally Posted by CraigC
Cimarron doesn't assemble either. They import finished guns.

If you think the grip is too small, you gotta tuck that pinky under as Sam Colt and God intended.


That is correct. They don't assemble.

Uberti probably makes more of their SAA's now. They did use ASM one some in the past, but have pretty much stuck with Uberti for their bread and butter.

Cimarron does pay extra for better parts, fit and finish, as well as other historical markings on the firearms. The owner, Mike Harvey pays attention to detail.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
That is correct. They don't assemble.

Uberti probably makes more of their SAA's now. They did use ASM one some in the past, but have pretty much stuck with Uberti for their bread and butter.

Cimarron does pay extra for better parts, fit and finish, as well as other historical markings on the firearms. The owner, Mike Harvey pays attention to detail.

ASM is defunct, they get guns from Uberti and Pietta.

No, Cimarron has QC personnel at the Uberti factory. Their guns come off the same production line as those for Taylor's, Dixie Gun Works, EMF and Stoeger. Any difference in finish work is handled by sub-contractors in the US and that is done on completely finished guns.

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That is correct. They don't assemble.

Uberti probably makes more of their SAA's now. They did use ASM one some in the past, but have pretty much stuck with Uberti for their bread and butter.

Cimarron does pay extra for better parts, fit and finish, as well as other historical markings on the firearms. The owner, Mike Harvey pays attention to detail.

ASM is defunct, they get guns from Uberti and Pietta.

No, Cimarron has QC personnel at the Uberti factory. Their guns come off the same production line as those for Taylor's, Dixie Gun Works, EMF and Stoeger. Any difference in finish work is handled by sub-contractors in the US and that is done on completely finished guns.


I hate to say so, but you are wrong, sir.

I used to work at Cimarron. I knew the Uberti family as well, and these events were discussed in my presence without hesitation. (before Uberti was bought)

Mike, that owns Cimarron pays extra for fit, finish, wood quality, bluing, case coloring, and individual markings/stamps. At the factory in Italy.

They DO offer a U.S. finish gun line, or used to... Those were finished in the U.S. Considerably more $$. (by old Colt personnel.)

They do offer some lower end finish work firearms at a lesser price.

They may all come off the same assy line, but the extra is for the details.

A King Ranch Ford, and a vinyl seat work truck come off the same assy line too. wink


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Here is a picture of my Uberti and my 3rd. Gen. Colt.
Hard to tell the difference, same weight, feel, actions are darn close to identical, the both shoot about the same.
I'm sure blind-folded no one could tell the difference.
The only real difference is the Colt is $1000 more.
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That is correct. They don't assemble.

Uberti probably makes more of their SAA's now. They did use ASM one some in the past, but have pretty much stuck with Uberti for their bread and butter.

Cimarron does pay extra for better parts, fit and finish, as well as other historical markings on the firearms. The owner, Mike Harvey pays attention to detail.

ASM is defunct, they get guns from Uberti and Pietta.

No, Cimarron has QC personnel at the Uberti factory. Their guns come off the same production line as those for Taylor's, Dixie Gun Works, EMF and Stoeger. Any difference in finish work is handled by sub-contractors in the US and that is done on completely finished guns.


I hate to say so, but you are wrong, sir.

I used to work at Cimarron. I knew the Uberti family as well, and these events were discussed in my presence without hesitation. (before Uberti was bought)

Mike, that owns Cimarron pays extra for fit, finish, wood quality, bluing, case coloring, and individual markings/stamps. At the factory in Italy.

They DO offer a U.S. finish gun line, or used to... Those were finished in the U.S. Considerably more $$. (by old Colt personnel.)

They do offer some lower end finish work firearms at a lesser price.

They may all come off the same assy line, but the extra is for the details.

A King Ranch Ford, and a vinyl seat work truck come off the same assy line too. wink


That's funny because my information comes from talking to the people at Cimarron. Along with the folks who own a bunch of different guns from the various importers, including myself, plus the several industry folks who I've discussed this with. All of whom see no difference. It's pure marketing.

And in truth, I have a very positive opinion of Cimarron and their guns. I just don't see them as anything special over Dixie Gun Works or Taylor's.

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Originally Posted by jbmi
The only real difference is the Colt is $1000 more.

Well that and better materials, real color case hardening, typically better fit, finish & polish, etc.. Ubertis are very good guns for the money but Colt is still a better made gun. USFA is better still, inside and out.

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I here to help you out. grin


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Originally Posted by jbmi
Here is a picture of my Uberti and my 3rd. Gen. Colt.
Hard to tell the difference, same weight, feel, actions are darn close to identical, the both shoot about the same.
I'm sure blind-folded no one could tell the difference.
The only real difference is the Colt is $1000 more.
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That gun looks surprisingly like a cat.

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Thanks for the info guys.


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by jbmi
Here is a picture of my Uberti and my 3rd. Gen. Colt.
Hard to tell the difference, same weight, feel, actions are darn close to identical, the both shoot about the same.
I'm sure blind-folded no one could tell the difference.
The only real difference is the Colt is $1000 more.
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That gun looks surprisingly like a cat.


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I just have to say, a 2010 Eddie Bauer Explorer really kills the whole 1870's frontier tone. grin


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I have no real idea what it means - beyond good enough - but I want one

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I just have to say, a 2010 Eddie Bauer Explorer really kills the whole 1870's frontier tone. grin
Hey, that's a 2006. No way I'd let a '10 creep in there. I agree, it would be anachronistic.

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