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Actually, Jack O'Connor never shot a 270. He shot a 257 Roberts almost exclusively. I got this from a reliable souse in Lewiston.

Al Gore invented the 270 Win

Actually, Mr. Peabody invented it to create all the drama on the Campfire concerning it, and then he and his Boy Sherman hopped in the Wayback machine and deposited the idea on the desk of Ed Pugsley, CEO of Winchester at the time...

It has now come full circle, as it were.

Mule Deer,

You say the origins of the Model 54 are that developmental work was done as early as 1912, interrupted by the war and finally brought out after?

I remember (barely) reading an article probably 20 years ago which claimed Winchester had plans 1919-20 to bring out a sporter based upon the 1917 action, but were beaten to the punch by Remington with their Model 30. Was that proto-54 then resurrected to compete with the Model 30?

That would be my guess, but after the war it was obvious bolt actions would play a big role in big game hunting in America. Several companies had already moved with 'em, including Savage with the 1920.

You gotta wonder what Savage's place in bolt action history would have been if they had marketed a long action 1920 in 256 Newton, 7x57, 30-06, and ??? at the same time as the short action 1920 in 250-3000 and 300 Savage.

I heard that he also shot a Mesican 7x57 reamed out to 7mm-'03

It is not well known, but on the eight day, after having a day off to fully consider all possible options, God created the 270 Winchester.

And here I thought it was the founding fathers.

Correction - the 6.7x63 Uber Neuber was based on the 6.8x57 Chinese Mauser

No idea what twist these metrics used.

I have read so many different accounts on how the 270 Winchester came into being, that it gets all very muddled. Till I pared down my collection some years back, I had 6 rifles so chambered- I had also planed on selling a 7mm RM barrel that came on an R-93 I bought but it shot so well I just kept it! The bottom line is that the 270 is one of the best things ever to come out of Winchester period! And in 2015 its a way better cartridge that it was when introduced in 1925 or when JOC started writing about it in the late 1930's and in the post WW-II years. Its a good balanced flat shooting cartridge that will handle most of the world big game with out a hitch, the only requirement is being able to shoot. There is so much over lap between .257 cal to .338 cal that it really makes no real difference on what the bullet launcher is, stick a good bullet in the right spot and make sure you have a sharp knife!

Jack o'Conner also has a 275 H&H built and Western made the ammo. Mos have never heard of the 275 H&H. Basically a belted 280 rem in velocity.

Doc

The 6.7mm X 63mm is precisely the same cartridge as the .270 Winchester.
Invented by an Austrian company Neuber and Sohn in 1911.

Steve, your spelling is impeccable!

I live near Lewiston and have probably seen your souse around one of the local watering wholes!

I'd also be willing to bet plenty of the information provided on this 'fire is supplied by reliable souses. I hear the news media relies upon them also.

Thanks for your wonderful comments sir. And for helping to keep the grand old cartridge of the Empire alive.

Geno

That guy looks like my cousin who is a Shriner and a drag queen.

When I was a young gunsmith in Kamloops B.C., A fellow brought in an old Model 54 to see about having it scoped. The rifle was in 270 Winchester and the serial number was No.21 marked in engraved script. I was reluctant to modify the rifle and gave the guy the address for Winchester records and told him to write for more info. He came back into the shop a couple months later with his letter which stated that he possessed the first 270 to leave the factory. The rifle had been sent to Ashley Haines, who was the gun writer for Outdoor Life and who lived in Salmon Arm, for evaluation. Turned out this guy's wife was a niece or great niece of Haines and he had ended up with the rifle. I like to think he donated to the Cody museum or something but probably not. GD

You're welcome. Seriousity seems to be taken too seriously around here.

Props Valsdad, TFF !

On behalf of Ingwe, Who cares?

He didn't have anything else to do....because he didn't own a 30/06!!