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A former state lawmaker is accused of illegally killing a moose Sunday in Interior Alaska, according to troopers. Woodie Salmon, 63, said he knew he might face trouble the moment he pulled the trigger but was within his traditional rights.

“My take is that I am practicing my Native traditional lifestyle that’s been passed on for many, many generations,” Salmon told KTUU in a phone interview today from Chalkyitsik.

Troopers flew to the village of fewer than 100 people this week after receiving a tip that someone had illegally taken a bull moose in game management unit 25D during the closed season. The season opens Sept. 10 on state lands and Aug. 25 on federal lands, troopers wrote in a dispatch posted online.

Salmon says he admitted to killing the animal, which he says he shared with “four or five” families. Troopers seized the antlers and Salmon’s rifle.

The firearm cost $300, Salmon said, adding that life is harder in remote Alaska villages than many people think and that he is in Chalkyitsik to care for his 83-year-old father.

“It’s something we have to stand up for. It’s our right,” Salmon said of the kill.

Salmon is the grandson of the late Chief David Salmon, a Gwich'in Athabascan and founding member of the Tanana Chiefs Conference, according to that organization.

A former Fort Yukon mayor, Salmon defeated Ward Sattler in 2004 to represent House District 6 as a Democrat, serving until 2010 when he was defeated by Republican Alan Dick. The district includes a wide swath of Interior Alaska district north of Fairbanks.

Taking a moose during a closed season is a state misdemeanor. Salmon was issued a summons, troopers wrote, and is expected to be arraigned Sept. 25 in Fort Yukon District Court.

Salmon said he hopes to have a jury trial.

http://www.ktuu.com/news/news/troopers-say-former-alaska-lawmaker-illegally-killed-moose/34920940

A jury of his peers would consist of 12 other poachers

It is his right....If they had an open season on moose!

Bear...How did you find a way to take a hunting violation and attach a political twist to it? You are an amazing old man! A bit twisted but amazing nevertheless!

more liberal hypocrisy on display by our resident socialist lil puke



damn near every post you make is an attempt to align misdeeds with the GOP


and yet when you get a dose administered to you of your own medicine your response is typical liberal hypocrisy

"hey play fair"


you're a fing joke Walt

Walt, if demanding that natives be allowed to violate laws, isn't a political question, begging for the politics to change, then I"m not sure what political is.

Sorry you can't see that far.

Damn sure here, if you want to change a law, thats a political endeavor.

And that's the point you stupid dumbass [bleep] head!

If you were capable of reading beyond a first grade level, you'd read the article and understand.

Alas, you're ignorant and stupid.

His eyes are very close together. There may be halibut in his DNA.

Uh-oh …. poor Walty he just had both of the baddest words invoked upon him….


…and we don't need to see the replay to know they weren't thrown in error.

So, is Mr. Salmon actually Elizabeth Warren's "cousin" or is he a true Native? This might make a huge difference when it comes to the Presidential pardon.

Hey Walt - have you seen what the state game board rubber stamped on unit 23 caribou this year at the behest of the caribou management group (village leaders all).. If u missed it in a nutshell the least valuable reproductive members of a declining herd are being prohibited from timely harvest while pregnant cows (many still accompanied by calves whose chances are greatly reduced without their mothers) are being targeted - because they are "fat".

How's that for political game management vs biological?

I don't think I suggested that violation of our games law was or not political or acceptable. Nail their asses just like anyone else's. The question for Bear was his ability to link crap to politics rather than saying this a game violation pure and simple. We have many of our elected politicians who are routinely ticketed for game violations and neither party has that market cornered.

My point is it is a game violation pure and simple. Ticket the bumb!

Your only point is on top of your head clown

Walt

Nope, its political as the guy demands his right to do it.

Yep he broke the law, but he didn't admit that, he wants the law changed... thats where politics come in.

w4bear, that pot thinks your kettle is very black


lmao, hypocrisy every time he touches the keyboard

pot could very well be the key word in your post....

Las:

The fact that the RACK even cut local harvest is huge> Back in 2007(?) the RACK forced the Board of Game to cut out of state harvest from 2 bulls to 1 bull and increased the no fly zone until 9/15 citing the impact was hurting Noatak Village and their local hunt. Many of us tried to point out that the out of state impact was less than 2,000 animals in a herd of 400,000+ and starvation and local hunting pressure was much greater. It took a few years but it was simple to see the WACH herd was shifting its migration to the east and it had nothing to do with hunting pressure from the out of state hunters.


Ok...this is my whole point....


Bears statement...Its a democrats right


The poachers statement...
“My take is that I am practicing my Native traditional lifestyle that’s been passed on for many, many generations,” Salmon told KTUU in a phone interview today from Chalkyitsik.

How is this a Republican or a Democrat issue? It is a poaching issue and guess what? The state did the right thing just like if dumb Arss Bear had poached the moose.

So How did Bear find a way to spin this into a political issue? Well he must be a magician! or just a Dumb Arss, you choose!

It must hurt to be as narrow minds and stupid as you appear sometimes Bear! Are you one of the sons on the Alaskan Bush People? Do you like to climb trees?

Sorry Bear... I should not be mean to you.....Your family can take care of that.

See ya boys...Unlike many of you I need to get home as this weekend my daughters is sighting in her .243 and we need to do some scouting for next weekends hunt.

You didn't think it thru Walt. This not a "reduction in harvest" but an increase in herd mortality. It is merely a reduction in opportunity which will do nothing to reduce take home harvest.

First, it takes a couple cows to mass one bull in the freezer.
Second, every cow killed will likely be pregnant , that is two dead caribou, right there. plus all future offspring in subsequent years.
Third, those of us who prefer to kill bulls November to February will have to kill cows instead to stay legal.
Fourth, since it is difficult to differentiate cows from young bulls at any longer distance, and/or without fairly extensive study for the penis sheath, peeing posture, or vulva patch, Theonly assured way under most circumstances is to shoot a cow with a calf in preference to a lone "either sex". Few circumstances lend themselves to extended study time, spotting scope use, and even fewer hunters use them or even own one. Sex differentiation may be easier rwhen running them down - excuse me-"positioning " them- with a high speed boat or snow machine but I wouldn't know about that.
Fifth, given the above, I suspect a number of mistakes will be abandoned ithe field.
Sixth, also given above points, orphaned calves of the year have even less of a chance of surviving the winter. They usually hang around where their mothers are killed, at least for a time, subjecting themselves to increased predation hazard and weight loss, plus they lose the body protection and foraging help of their mothers in bad weather. There have been several found frozen to death under decks and in yards around town in the few years I've been in Kotz when the migration as bed strong thru the immediate area.
Seventh, these regulations are largely not enforceable, except voluntarily and rarely by LEO -and then I believe it will be highly selective.

This is wrong-headed feel-good tripe going in exactly the wrong direction. It is political decision by the state game board enshrining localcultural practices to the detriment of sensible and proven good game management. With the exception of closing bull harvest during the rut, which virtually no one does anyway. I am sorely disappointed in the gut-less, fear-based political action of the game board.

The only good thing, if it can be termed that, is that the proper procedure was followed to obtain a bad result.

If only obviously.

If things were reversed, ol' dumb ass Wally would have been the first to blame the violation on the republicans.

As usual, ol' 2L2Q nailed it.

Las I agree with you. The entire process is flawed when the state allows the RACK t be dominated with the likes of Willy Goodwin and there is no science taken into account.

Back to Bear...It has nothing to do with party affiliation. Period!

Bender...Take your hand out of your pants and stop trying to be apart of a discussion on a topic you know nothing about, hunting and "Bush" Alaska. Back to your Cabela's Big Game Hunter. It will as close as you get to hunting this year.

Mark Twain
“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

This is more a claim to aboriginal rights than some political afilliation. Aboriginal claims is a long and tired subject especially in Ak. Certainly, beyond Bear's attention span.

The man gets it! Some of your other clowns want to always find a way to attach political affiliation.

Stop being mean to Bear...He has spent too much time cooking Meth in the Valley.

well, regardless its a political issue, regardless of the fact that I'm sure in AK, most of the poor folks are leeches just like they are down here, and we all know which way they vote.

Always thinking others owe them.

Hell thats how we got stupid obama in, all the idiots that think folks owe them, voted for him, to take money from those of us who learned how to work for a living, to give to those lazy SOBs that won't.

I really still have a hard time dealing with anyone stupid enough to vote for obama, liberal or democrat for starters, shows your ignorance in spades no pun intended.

Perhaps the most troubling thing about what the fellow was trying to get away with is that it reflects so very negatively on the many good folks out in rural areas who don't flagrantly violate the laws, wait for the opening day, buy their licenses and acquire permits, etc. (Locally we even have people from a certain village who talk about seeing a young bull or even a cow nearby, a month or two before the opening of the season, who admit it will be lucky if doesn't end up in freezers the next village over before the opening.)

And, in defense of "locals" of various stripes who are sometimes maligned, there were people from a local village who petitioned the advisory board to limit the take of bull moose in one sub-section of a sub-unit in order to bring herd numbers up. This was coming from the bottom rather than from the top. This change has been in effect for several years and it has had the desired effect on moose numbers.

Walt, you even managed to prove Reagan wrong. You ARE ignorant. Congratulations?

Having grown up on a reservation and dealt with Indians their take on the whole wildlife management program is zero.. They will shoot everything up when its all gone they will blame that damn white man! But you do have a few tribes that see a benefit to managing the herd look at the white mtn apache. Anyhow in AK I don't know why they are violating the law most folks out in the bush get tier hunts and get a jump start on the rest of us that live on the road system. Probably one of the biggest time bombs on hunting/rights/etc is in unit 13. Drum roll please..... Ol Walt from GlennAllen benefits from this he gets 4 federal caribou tags, 1 federal moose tag(this hunt starts in August in unit 13), probably puts in for the Unit 13 Tier permit, and slums it with a state moose harvest ticket. On top of all of this he gets to hunt in Wrangell-StElias national park.

Your knowledge of reservation life is spot on and much the same up her. Your knowledge of how many tags I get is way off. I get 2 tags to hunt on federal lands and they do not layer onto of any other type of permit. So yes...Living in unit 13 allows me an extra caribou than the guys from Fairbanks but the Safeway store is 4 hours away.

By the way...I lived in Kotz for 10 years and my federal bag limit was 15 a day-year round.(in the preserve) Never took more than 3 a year though.

You can't fix stupid!

Walt, let's keep the honesty rollin'.... any fed/state aid including food stamps ever come your way?

Does my PFD count?

Did the grocery store in glennallen open back up? Hell pretty nice Safeway in Valdez..

Have you checked the price of milk at the Glennallen store? $5.75 a gal sparky and gas is currently $3.70 a gal. Living in the rural areas have lots advantages, food and fuel prices are not one of them!

I think I will shoot 2 Booooo this year and heck I will take any bull moose while I am at it!

obama's coming to town today, did you put on some lip gloss?

Knee pads and this.

Uh, thinking Glennallen must not be all that rural with prices like that. Try $7 and change for a half gallon of milk (plus tax, of course), and $3.70 for gas is so turn-of-the-century as rural prices go (and only 25 cents more than Fairbanks).

It's tougher on the road system than you think!

Because they can always be counted upon to vote for the democraps................red "gimme dats".

Back to your Meth Pipe old man.