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What does any of that have to do with the question?

God Said it-Believe it!!!

You cannot invoke an all knowing, all powerful creator, and then claim that anything that happens is not his fault.

Of course it's God's fault. He could make the Universe and it's inhabitants any why he choose, and he choose to make folks who like to live below sea level and at the waters edge.

If God didn't choose to make these people this stupid, we wouldn't have this problem.

When the ice in my gin and tonic melts, it displaces down my gullet.

Another factor never mentioned about sea rise and all the nonsense about about how the melting of glaciers and the ice on land, such as Greenland and Antarctica, is Continental Rebound. Alarmists state that this will flood coastal cities as the ice melts.

Think about it. Continental plates are simply huge rafts that float on a sea of magma. Put a lot of weight (mass) on that and it will push against the magma and the other plates will equalize the pressure (both continental and sea plates). When the continents lose the ice, the land will actually rise because the land is displacing less magma. Similarly, the sea plates will get lower as more weight is distributed over the sea plates. In other words, the continental plates and sea plates work to equilibrium.

Never read anything about that, though I wouldn't be surprised if there was some minor effect. But historically all evidence points to the sea dropping dramatically during ice ages, and rising dramatically in between. Dramatically as measured over thousands of years, that is. It's been higher than it is now, and it's been lower.

The seas have been rising for the last 20,000 years and will continue rising until we peak and start sliding down into the next ice age. So personally... I'm all for watching the seas continue to rise at the rate they have been. Because if you want to see drought conditions, wait until the warm period is over and we start sliding down the climate trough again.

Not a Climate denier. That's what climate does is change.
I do have some questions about the change being anthropomorphic or not.
There are natural forces at work that make our activities, and our contribution seem rather meager.
I don't think we are smart enough to understand what may happen, or what is causing it.
A lot of people would prefer to believe that it is man caused, because it makes them think we have some control over the issue, and can, therefore prevent the problems.
If it's volcanoes, earthquakes and, to some extent, wildfires, then we are powerless.
Nature can pump a lot more carbon into the atmosphere than we ever could.

and we don't know if evapo-transpiration rates will rise or change if ocean levels rise. it is implied that there will be a greater surface area of water. that mean more water vapor in the atmosphere, I believe.

Except for the part above the surface of the sea.

Fill your sink most of the way up, slowly put a bowl or pot in it, put some water in it to balance it so it doesn't tip over. See what happens to the level of your sink water when you then push the rest of the pot into the water in the sink. I bet it raises (maybe overflows if you filled it high enough to start).

Comment about fresh/salt water dilution is also right on, fresh is less dense. Also warming water is less dense and therefor takes up more space (volume).

Someone else mentioned it, the real concern is land ice as in glaciers in Greenland, Antarctica, and to a lesser extent our own mountains (yep, that water melted from the receding glaciers it going into the rising ocean).

Geno

Hell, in five years we will all be worried about falling sea levels as global cooling starts expanding the ice sheets.
Either way, I'm in a pretty safe spot.

The libs are on a guilt trip. They want to blame global climate change on the evil humans in an attempt to tax us more. Back in the 70's, they said that we were going into an ice age. In the 80's, Ted Danson claimed that the climate was warming and NY City would be under water by the year 2000. I guess they were wrong. About 5 or 6 years ago they figured out that the climate wasn't getting warmer, so they changed their terminology and are now calling it climate change, as if the climate isn't allowed to change. That's like saying our weather should be the same each day.

Liberals are short minded. They constantly quote data only going back 100 years or so. It is a fact that the earths climate has changed naturally since the beginning of time for millions and millions of years. Ask any geologist.

I think most people agree that we shouldn't pollute the environment. But the notion that people are the cause is asinine.

I wouldn't worry about the oceans rising anytime soon. God will probably wait at least a couple of thousands of years before he gets rid of NY City.

From earlier today...

NASA: Sea Level Rise Could Be Worse than we Thought

Climate change is about the rich
getting richer.

When the ice on Greenland melted they found farms that had been buried under ice.

Actually I'm wrong and Steelhead is right (no shocker there). I knew I was missing something.

A freshwater iceberg will displace the equivalent mass of seawater when floating - but when the iceberg melts the volume of the water in the iceberg is added to the volume of the seawater - so it ends up in a net sea level rise.

Mass versus mass for displacement with solid masses and water, but volume plus volume for water added to water. Since seawater is denser than fresh water, the iceberg displaces less seawater than equivalent volumes of freshwater and seawater would make up.

Never doubt a coastie when he talks water.

Yes, they use computer climate models. The computer models use data that some wacko environmentalist put in.

Garbage in....garbage out.

I agree with StoneCutter on this.

and satellite data...

Wind, stacking water up in places, sucking it out of others. While some places HAVE seen some rise, there are places where the level has fallen. Wind currents push it around. Looks better to the greenies to have ice melting. Furthers their agenda. Like we will go and check it out....buncha bull puckey, if you ask me.

Columbia University releases these numbers which the panic group references:

Raw satellite data from 1992 to 2015:



But!! Isn't it curious that the start of the extremely rapid increase correlates exactly with the start of satellite data?

So we have this paper published which puts in adjustments to the data correcting for satellite and land movement and that last 25 years goes from 3.2mm/yr to 2.6mm/yr:

http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v5/n6/full/nclimate2635.html



Still an increase, but it's still odd that the uptick happened the same exact time as the satellite data. So.. expect to see more corrections come out.

Here's an easy way to visualize it. You have a 10 gal block of ice floating in the sea. 9 gal of it are below the surface and 1 gal is above. When the block melts, it becomes more dense and the 10 gal of ice is now the size of 9 gal of sea water - which exactly fills the hole in the water made by the block of ice.