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Peggy Noonan (heard the name, no idea who she is) article

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Something is going on, some tectonic plates are moving in interesting ways. My friend Cesar works the deli counter at my neighborhood grocery store. He is Dominican, an immigrant, early 50s, and listens most mornings to a local Hispanic radio station, La Mega, on 97.9 FM. Their morning show is the popular “El Vacilón de la Mañana,” and after the first GOP debate, Cesar told me, they opened the lines to call-ins, asking listeners (mostly Puerto Rican, Dominican, Mexican) for their impressions. More than half called in to say they were for Mr. Trump. Their praise, Cesar told me a few weeks ago, dumbfounded the hosts. I later spoke to one of them, who identified himself as D.J. New Era. He backed Cesar’s story. “We were very surprised,” at the Trump support, he said. Why? “It’s a Latin-based market!”

“He’s the man,” Cesar said of Mr. Trump. This week I went by and Cesar told me that after Mr. Trump threw Univision’s well-known anchor and immigration activist, Jorge Ramos, out of an Iowa news conference on Tuesday evening, the “El Vacilón” hosts again threw open the phone lines the following morning and were again surprised that the majority of callers backed not Mr. Ramos but Mr. Trump. Cesar, who I should probably note sees me, I sense, as a very nice establishment person who needs to get with the new reality, was delighted.

I said: Cesar, you’re supposed to be offended by Trump, he said Mexico is sending over criminals, he has been unfriendly, you’re an immigrant. Cesar shook his head: No, you have it wrong. Immigrants, he said, don’t like illegal immigration, and they’re with Mr. Trump on anchor babies. “They are coming in from other countries to give birth to take advantage of the system. We are saying that! When you come to this country, you pledge loyalty to the country that opened the doors to help you.”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/america-is-so-in-play-1440715262

VIVA LA TRUMP!

My opinion, immigrants who come here and go through the proper channels to get citizenship are doing so because they want to be Americans. They want the opportunities, of course, but above all they want to identify themselves as Americans. They want to be bona fide, mainstream citizens.

They have little tolerance for those who just jump the border to ride the gravy train.

I can remember relatives, and friends from Italy. That were so proud to learn English, and finally be able to say " TODAY I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN ". Does anyone see this enthusiasm from criminal border jumpers?? No. But you do from those that do it the right way. It's really a simple novel concept. Do things legal, be proud to be a citizen, and mostly. RIDE FOR THE BRAND!!!!!!!



Take care, Willie

Hell, I'll bet if you asked them a substantial number of illegal immigrants wouldn't mind seeing illegal immigration curtailed. They have a good thing going. Those working, don't want to see more competition coming in for their jobs. Those on the dole don't want to see so many people coming in and getting on the dole as to upset the apple cart and ruin a good thing.

This whole illegal immigration thing is a gold rush mentality right now. The people are coming because they are afraid to be left behind. They know it will end eventually. No one wants to miss out. But, I'll damned well bet you that nearly every single person out there, even the illegal immigrants, wouldn't mind taking a step back and inserting a little sanity into the process.

Buddy of mine from Italy says that when they came over and were signed in , that once his family found a place and a job that their father walked into dinner and said , Not another word of Italian in this house till you learn English. If you spoke in Italian in the house thereafter you were knuckle knotted.

The immigrants that come here wanting to become American citizens are better Americans than a lot of folks born here.I can back this up with real life experience.

There is another type of immigrant. My folks came here, not necessarily seeking a better life materially speaking, but to escape the bonds of communism. These are your political refugees, most notably Cubans and South Vietnamese.

Once here, they and almost all like them, became staunchly pro-American and the American Way of life and Miami (not to mention the owner of this site) are proof-positive of the American Dream. It is also why Cubans loathe the democrats, although that dynamic is changing as more are born here and educated in the democratic matriarchy that is the education system here. Trump will easily capture the Cuban vote, if anything because the embodies capitalism and making money.

I will add this as well, that no matter how hard some of us have tried to assimilate, to many we are not or ever will be, "real Americans" and I'm fine with that, just keep my pension(s) coming...

You seem plenty American to me.

My wife is Canadian by birth,..first generation out of Russia (mother) and Poland (father).

The day she got her citizenship, she came out of the federal building in Louisville,...(lots of people sitting in the waiting room) held up her papers and loudly proclaimed "Americanski doc-u-ments!!"

I cracked up. Everybody else just raised one eyebrow and looked at her.

Maybe so (and thanks) and all these years away from Cuba..er Miami have given me a pretty good "varnish" so I can blend in even in your neck of the woods, or a Navy Ready Room for that matter.
But my wife. (a real German descent Gringa) always makes fun of me when we go to Miami because according to her, all it takes is about a minute of mixing it up down there and I start sounding like Ricky Ricardo. I still embarrass her because nothing (well many things) pisses me off more than someone coming up to me and starts talking in Spanish, ASSUMING I speak it. To which I reply in my best Florabama accent "sorry Pancho, I don't speak meskin'.. Anyway, we'll see what happens with Trump, but I'm betting he's got the Cuban-AMERICAN vote in the bag.

My wife is from the Philippines.I have a picture of her as she was taking the oath of allegiance at her naturalization ceremony. There were tears in her eyes and an indescribable look on her face. Pride, joy, relief--I really can't describe it. She has the most effective BS meter I have ever seen, and is a staunch conservative. She is 100% behind Trump, and yes, she votes in every election.

and the mere fact they have to take a test on American gov't puts them far ahead of way too many graduating high schoolers.


it's sad so many of our young folks know so little of how our gov't is supposed to operate.

I know and am friends with a bunch whose parents were not born US citizens. Every one is outspoken against the illegal invasion.

Like I said, even the illegals are afraid that the flood of illegals coming in right now are going to frick up a good thing.

Reagan staffer - which is telling.

if the republicans don't start standing for something the rank & file feels (and knows) is important, they might as well fold the tent and slip away into the night.

I hear the demo's would like to annex a bunch of rinos to represent the conservative wing of the democratic party as their left-wingers migrate toward the socialist spectrum.

there is either value-added in being a legal American citizen or there isn't.

I think Peggy Noonan is a liberal columnist. If I remember correctly, she's often on Meet The Press or one of those other liberal Sunday Morning political hack jobs......ahh, I mean talk shows.

That's why she is so dumbfounded. The funniest part is that the liberal media is noticing this sort of stuff. They're so clueless about how real Americans feel, they don't understand why so many people like Trump.

Sorry, I guess I'm wrong about who she is.

Everyone can separate the wheat from the chaff.



Take care, Willie

Lord have mercy, do none of you really know who Peggy Noonan is? She is arguably the grande dame of conservative political columnists.