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The .243" 105 Hybrid VLD,despite easily being THE best boolit Berger makes...seriously pales in terminal affects,as compared to the Hornie or Skinner 105' in all their flavors. The Hybrid is zookie,though it'd be a fair to middlin' pitch in a modest length 6BR. I still don't trust it there,so skirt 'em in order to reap the good stuff. In the SAAMI 243Win '17 will grant reliable splendor,with all of the 105's. Same goes 243AI. I'm in '22 Mode with the 6-284 and 105's at 3300fps++. '22 do nice thangs in 6-06 with same,if only because case capacities are birds of a feather. For a 6-06 Killing Rifle,the Montucky platform is THE Meeeow. L/a 700 COAL isn't requisite nor close and the Montucky is a great fit there,for arranging mag fed smooches. 23" 1-8" Brux 6-284 with Hornie 105HPBT's at 3300fps++. Pard's 22" 1-8" Brux SAAMI 243Win in contour dupe,launches '17 fueled 105 'Max at 3096fps ala moly smooches in Lapooey hulls and he crushed a 118-incher 'bout a week ago. He's done been converted. Just sayin'. Coupla 105 A-Max launched last,pass by Sister. Exits being a given and gravity yielded a fairly spectacular Blood Trail. 'Nother 105 'Max exit,from early Spring of this year. 'Nother 105 A-Max exit from 10 days or so ago,ala SAAMI 243Win. The 6mm Rem sucks heavy ass,compared to the 243Win or 243AI,if only because boolits matter more than headstamps. The fhuqking Mouser hull eats up COAL,less adding case capacity and is a serious Goat Fhuqk in comparison. The 6-284 is a shorter case and blows it outta the water. For a 6-06,I'd go NO other way than a Montucky donor and no longer than 23" in a contour dupe. 6x MQ Fixed Fhuqker would ride in DD's and Hornie 105 HPBT's smooching a magfed arrangement. Just sayin'. Hint.
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I'm really impressed with the Scenars. Daughter killed this big doe @ 160yds using a .243AI and 105gr Scenar Entrance and exit.
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The 6mm Rem sucks heavy ass,compared to the 243Win
I have the 6mmBR, 243, and 6mmRem reamers. I have just built and in testing with a 6mmRem on a 1903 Turk Mauser action. I am having real problems. This 6mmRem group this week was 1" at 50yards... it may not get to hunt. One of my 6mmBR rifles has done a 0.1" group at 50yards. I don't think the 6mmRem idea is bad. Just the necked down brass and some other stuff I must be doing wrong.
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Please update this thread when you get some more kills. I have a 1-8" twist rock and haven't driven myself from the 95 NBT.
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Planning on perforating a few antelope in a couple days with a 105 Berger. I've used that bullet successfully my last 2 trips out there with impressive results.
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Please update this thread when you get some more kills. I have a 1-8" twist rock and haven't driven myself from the 95 NBT. I've been running the 85 grain HPBT Game Kings in my 6mm Rem T3, at 3340 avg. These little pills have done so well, I have yet to standardize on a larger one.
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my favorite 105 for deer, and anything else for that matter, is an M102: Fire for effect, over....
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Just got back from Wyoming, slinging the 105 Berger hunting vld. I won't be using this bullet anymore, as I had one grenade on and antelope doe's shoulder at 100 yards when shot with my 6xc. The shoulder was destroyed, and there was zero further penetration.
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Only have experience with one so far, the Hornady HP, and it is a sweet little pill: accurate, easy to push fast (3050 in a 22" Savage 243 with an off-max charge of Hybrid 100V), slick, cheap, and passes the 3-jug test at 100. I won't be shopping around for anything else. That bullet will be chasing after an elk's lungs this year.
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Anyone able to report on these yet this season?
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My boy shot a doe here at the house at 250 yds prone. 105 hybrids in a 243.through both lungs and the off shoulder.a puddle inside. We have killed enough with it now to say that this is pretty standard for that bullet.
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My boy shot a doe here at the house at 250 yds prone. 105 hybrids in a 243.through both lungs and the off shoulder.a puddle inside. We have killed enough with it now to say that this is pretty standard for that bullet. Had similar results this weekend on. Couple pics at a measly 80yds.
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I think around 8 bucks (so far) fell this year to the 105 Amax from my 243AI , all killed in mountain hunts. There isn't much I wouldn't use it for, and I'd use it for even the most remote trophy hunt.
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Calvin are you shooting shoulders? If not, would you with the Amax? How fast are you launching them?
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I've hit them everywhere with the 105. No problems. It's close contact hunting this time of the year, and most shots were under 30yds. 3150 out of a 8 twist 22" pac nor.
I've killed with the berger and scenar also in 105. I have a ton of amax's, so that's what I'm using. Berger is zookie, but works. Scenar was the most accurate.
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Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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