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Was your rebore a stainless barrel?
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The Ruger Express rifles have an integral 1/4 rib? Wonder if that would cause problems at reboring?
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According to Clearwater Reboring, the screws for the quarter-rib mounting holes on the Number 1 are very deep. That might be a limiting factor on the Express as well.
Well, I thought it was a good idea. I think I'll just cry "uncle" and continue to nose around.
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I wonder if there is enough steel at the muzzle to have a .270 rebored to a .338-06. Ask the company you will have the re-bore done. Simple. 
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Stop making sense! It's annoying! 
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Sorry,it happens every once in a while.
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She's a good woman. Unfortunately she's not a wealthy woman. I got her even poorer sister 
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Reverend Mike,
I can appreciate being a loony, but I'm not sure I'd do this to an Express.
Reverend Killjoy Exactly! Besides, Look at the JES website for reboring and there is no mention of Rugers. I had a Ruger rebored by a fellow in North Dakota who wouldn't make any promises, and said they (Ruger barrels) can be trouble for some reason. Mine is certainly not pleasant to look at - rough as a cob actually- but it shoots very adequately for hunting purposes, at least for whatever I'll ever hunt with a 358 Norma. I certainly would not mess with trying to rebore a barrel that has all that custom machining done to it. JES rebored my Ruger and it shoots like a mofo. Dave
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Reverend Mike,
I can appreciate being a loony, but I'm not sure I'd do this to an Express.
Reverend Killjoy Besides, here are the economics: Ruger M77 Express - .270 Win (new): $1800 Rebore to .338-06: 300 Total: $2100 Dakota 97: $8350 Lots of better ways to skin this cat. Travis
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Reverend Mike,
I can appreciate being a loony, but I'm not sure I'd do this to an Express.
Reverend Killjoy Besides, here are the economics: Ruger M77 Express - .270 Win (new): $1800 Rebore to .338-06: 300 Total: $2100 Dakota 97: $8350 Lots of better ways to skin this cat. Travis Yep. I'd be looking at Montana Rifle Company - they have a couple "custom" rifles which are really nice.
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Well, there's the rub. I've contacted Jeff Sipe about that and he told me that they're not doing any custom rifles, even though it's listed on their website.
I have an ASR in 7x57. That is certainly an option to have tweaked into an Express-type rifle.
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Reverend Mike,
I can appreciate being a loony, but I'm not sure I'd do this to an Express.
Reverend Killjoy There's no better Ruger to do this to. Who wants a 10 pound 270??? An "Express" rifle should be chambered in something like the 9.3x62 anyway....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Reverend Mike,
I can appreciate being a loony, but I'm not sure I'd do this to an Express.
Reverend Killjoy Exactly! Besides, Look at the JES website for reboring and there is no mention of Rugers. I had a Ruger rebored by a fellow in North Dakota who wouldn't make any promises, and said they (Ruger barrels) can be trouble for some reason. Mine is certainly not pleasant to look at - rough as a cob actually- but it shoots very adequately for hunting purposes, at least for whatever I'll ever hunt with a 358 Norma. I certainly would not mess with trying to rebore a barrel that has all that custom machining done to it. JES rebored my Ruger and it shoots like a mofo. Dave "mofo", when you use the right ammo I bet..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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According to Clearwater Reboring, the screws for the quarter-rib mounting holes on the Number 1 are very deep. That might be a limiting factor on the Express as well.
Well, I thought it was a good idea. I think I'll just cry "uncle" and continue to nose around. The 1/4 rib on the Express is integral to the barrel, unlike the No. 1 which attaches with screws. The only screw on the Express rib secures the 2 leaf rear site in the dovetail. Now to answer your original question, the muzzle on a 30-06 Express is 0.565" which leaves you 0.114" wall thickness with a 338 bore. By the way, I agree with 'flave - don't do it!  The 270 wouldn't be my first choice in the Express, but it seems too unique a rifle to diddle with. I'd scratch the 338 itch by buying a rifle...
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$368 will get one of the last Howa Lightnings in .338WM shipped to your FFL, if that's interesting. Leaves a few nickels to put it in your choice of stock.
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Was your rebore a stainless barrel? Yes, but he said it was a Ruger thing, the most troublesome being the stainless….sometimes. And you find the name Ruger nowhere on the JES website, so……. ? (I'm betting it ain't just one reborer who isn't crazy about the structure of the metal in the hammer-forged Ruger barrels.)
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JES has no problem re-boring Rugers.
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Father Michael, Somewhere between that Dakota thing and destroying your Express seems reasonable. There are lots of M77's out there in suitable calibers that could be rebored to the 338-06. I'd find one of those, have JES re-bore it. Then send it off to a gunsmith to have the stock re-worked, the metal re-finished, and any other fancy schit you be needin'. I sorta did that with my 9.3X62. ![[Linked Image]](http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj220/deflave25_2008/Rug.jpg)
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Stop making sense! It's annoying! Give it all up Rev! I'll walk you through the steps of building a stainless McFlame.....
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The 1/4 rib on the Express is integral to the barrel, unlike the No. 1 which attaches with screws. The only screw on the Express rib secures the 2 leaf rear site in the dovetail. Now to answer your original question, the muzzle on a 30-06 Express is 0.565" which leaves you 0.114" wall thickness with a 338 bore. By the way, I agree with 'flave - don't do it! The 270 wouldn't be my first choice in the Express, but it seems too unique a rifle to diddle with. I'd scratch the 338 itch by buying a rifle... That is very helpful information, thanks. Father Michael, Somewhere between that Dakota thing and destroying your Express seems reasonable. There are lots of M77's out there in suitable calibers that could be rebored to the 338-06. I'd find one of those, have JES re-bore it. Then send it off to a gunsmith to have the stock re-worked, the metal re-finished, and any other fancy schit you be needin'. I sorta did that with my 9.3X62. Nice! That's pretty much where I am. I get the not too subtle impression that to do what I was thinking is tantamount to blasphemy, so I'll go another route. I appreciate all the input.
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