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Carson is smart enough to survive anywhere.

Likely not as different as you think.

I have confidence in the man. If he's elected, he'll do a fine job.

Where the Rs are right now, though, is an enviable position. Their top 6-7 candidates are very well qualified and suited for executive positions and each could be a very effective candidate and President.

Carson is too meek and mild mannered to make it IMO.

Reminds me some of Arthur Ashe.

Yep, and because of the basic problem that the R's and D's serve the same masters - or at least worship at the same altar and do NOT want to see the flow of beneficence from their God interrupted.

You can't get 6 deep into the GOP candidates without at least half of them being establishment hacks.

In fact, the reason that there's so many candidates running for the GOP nomination is because the RNC wanted to split the vote in enough different directions that Jeb would be able to hold the frontrunner position with only 12 or 13% of the vote with the early primary states.

Trump fugged up that plan.

You couldn't be more off base.

Everybody talks about how a third party run would split the vote in the general election. But what they don't realize is,...the RNC works to split the vote in their own primary.

It's pretty amazing that there's 16? candidates vying for the GOP nomination, and just one of them is polling at 40% nationwide.

The RNC didn't see that coming.

Yeah, I can go that deep easily without half of them being "establishment hacks":

Trump
Fiorina
Carson

Three is half of six.

If you need a fourth:

Walker - establishment hacks don't do what he did in WI.

Or, add in Cruz. Establishment hacks don't do an end run on the House Majority leader/Speaker of the House and don't call the Senator Majority Leader a liar on the floor of the Senate.

The top three Rs in the polls in Iowa right now (again, that's 1/2 of 6) are: Trump, Carson, Fiorina. None of them are "establishment hacks". Cruz and Walker are tied for fourth. The "establishment" bunch is behind all of them.

Fiorina has already said that she would sell out on her first day in office. She's an establishment hack.

Don't get me started on Cruz.

None of them are polling at 40% nationally. The highest that Trump is getting is mid/upper 20s within reputable nationwide polls.

I'm sure the RNC is seething over the Trump phenomenon. I still don't trust him and my offer of a box of cigars still holds.

Let me guess... it's the Jews and bankers, right?

But of course...

You missed the operative word.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...blican_presidential_nomination-3823.html

Besides, national polls mean NOTHING at this point. The polls in the early states are what counts.

..and unfortunately, Bush is WAY too high in those polls.

Among other things.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...ike-different-tone-toward-gays.html?_r=0

excerpt:

So the juxtaposition of Mr. Cruz being the guest of honor at a home owned by two of the most visible gay businessmen in New York City was striking. Mr. Cruz was on a fund-raising tour of New York City, although the dinner was not a fund-raiser.

Mr. Cruz also told the group that Peter Thiel, an openly gay investor, is a close friend of his, Mr. Sporn said. Mr. Thiel has been a generous contributor to Mr. Cruz’s campaigns.

Bush in any of those polls is too high.

Pay attention the Iowa, NH, and South Carolina polls, first and foremost, and then to the state specific polls for the Super Tuesday states.

Those count.

WTF the PRK, or Montana, or New York or Jew Jersey think is irrelevant - the nomination will be over before it gets to those states.

The states that will decide the nomination for the Rs are, in order:

IA, NH, SC, NV, AL, AR, CO, MA, OK, TN, TX, VT, VA, LA, KY, HI, MS, MI, PR, IL, MO, FL, NC, and OH.

Those 24 states all have primaries and caucuses on or before March 15, 2016. The nomination is all but done after the March 15 "Second Super Tuesday" with IL, MO, FL, NC, and OH. For many candidates, it will be over after the March 1 "Super Tuesday" of AL, AR, CO, MA, OK, TN, TX, VT, and VA.

Polls in those states, in order, count. The national crap means nothing at this point and even through until the end of March 2016.

After that, then the national polls matter because it will be between the R nominee and the D nominee.

Cruz is not allowed to have successful gay friends?

I guaran-damn-tee that Trump has successful gay friends. Shall we cast stones at him over the same?

Then again, your views on politics are as largely irrelevant as RobJordan's. You think Ron Paul came down from on high to save us all, and Rob can't figure out wtf a conservative actually is.