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You would be retired now, or close to it and had you spent at least three years in the higher pay grade, say GS-14 or 15 (or FV, etc), you would be doing very well, even as a FERS versus Civil Service employee.
It's not the destination...
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I figure 250K would put a fellow smack dab in middle class in AK
hope we make it!
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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Natural gas about $1300 per year …. What's natural gas and where can we find some? Is this some kind of special fuel for only special people or can anyone use it? 
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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I hear a lot about zip code privilege on here. Hmmmm… 
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Natural gas about $1300 per year …. What's natural gas and where can we find some? Is this some kind of special fuel for only special people or can anyone use it? In my area of Alaska there seem to be hard tubes that grow out of the ground next to many dwellings. Those tubes seem to produce a sulphery smelling gas that once correctly harnessed can heat those same dwellings and even be used to cook over. Your part Alaska doesn't have those hard tubes? Hmm. Must be a local thing.
Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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Natural gas about $1300 per year …. What's natural gas and where can we find some? Is this some kind of special fuel for only special people or can anyone use it? In my area of Alaska there seem to be hard tubes that grow out of the ground next to many dwellings. ... I'll bet you could make a fortune selling seed... (I hear tell they'd like to grow those things in Fairbanks.  )
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I like to see them run a natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe down through Fairbanks to a gas liquification plant in Nenena where it could be barged to bush communities then on down to Pt. Mackenzie. That's probably pie in the sky dreaming and I have no idea if would even be financially feasible but it would be an all Alaska pipeline and could have distribution nodes at every community along the way. Might make for cheaper natural gas and some fuel alternatives for the bush and smaller road communities. The excess gas could be marketed. I think Japan would take all we could produce.
Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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I wonder what the owners of that gas think?
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
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I like to see them run a natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe down through Fairbanks to a gas liquification plant in Nenena where it could be barged to bush communities then on down to Pt. Mackenzie. That's probably pie in the sky dreaming and I have no idea if would even be financially feasible but it would be an all Alaska pipeline and could have distribution nodes at every community along the way. Might make for cheaper natural gas and some fuel alternatives for the bush and smaller road communities. The excess gas could be marketed. I think Japan would take all we could produce. Would sure be a benefit to the state that has the resources. I wished we'd have tapped to our gas well years ago...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I like to see them run a natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe down through Fairbanks to a gas liquification plant in Nenena where it could be barged to bush communities then on down to Pt. Mackenzie. That's probably pie in the sky dreaming and I have no idea if would even be financially feasible but it would be an all Alaska pipeline and could have distribution nodes at every community along the way. Might make for cheaper natural gas and some fuel alternatives for the bush and smaller road communities. The excess gas could be marketed. I think Japan would take all we could produce. Don't go making sense like that. People have been deep-sixed for that kind of thinking. (One of the best ideas I've heard in that regard; not sure how practical, but I'd sure like to see it penciled out.)
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I believe the gas line is going to happen. I'd like to see it happen so that the line stayed in Alaska, provided some opportunities for our northern and bush communities to have a fuel option other than diesel, and make the investors/oil companies some money. A gas plant at Nenana and Pt Mackenzie would be a great economic shot in the arm for both areas.
Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
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MOLON LABE
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Walker would want it to go through Valdez first. I like to see them run a natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe down through Fairbanks to a gas liquification plant in Nenena where it could be barged to bush communities then on down to Pt. Mackenzie. That's probably pie in the sky dreaming and I have no idea if would even be financially feasible but it would be an all Alaska pipeline and could have distribution nodes at every community along the way. Might make for cheaper natural gas and some fuel alternatives for the bush and smaller road communities. The excess gas could be marketed. I think Japan would take all we could produce.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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My apologies to the OP. This thread kind of got hijacked.
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Walker would want it to go through Valdez first. I like to see them run a natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe down through Fairbanks to a gas liquification plant in Nenena where it could be barged to bush communities then on down to Pt. Mackenzie. That's probably pie in the sky dreaming and I have no idea if would even be financially feasible but it would be an all Alaska pipeline and could have distribution nodes at every community along the way. Might make for cheaper natural gas and some fuel alternatives for the bush and smaller road communities. The excess gas could be marketed. I think Japan would take all we could produce. I guess I wouldn't have too much heartburn over that as long as the pipeline stayed in Alaska. However, it would make better economic sense the way I proposed it. It would impact more communities and with a gas plant in Pt Mackenzie and Nenana could provide more jobs to locals than going along the existing pipeline route.
Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
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[color=sarcasm]I don't know though. If people had jobs, then there'd be money. Who wants to trust people with money, especially those in the rather 'outlying' areas? It's much easier to keep 'owning' folks by giving them (other people's) money. [/sarcasm color=off]
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And there is the assumption they would actually WANT to work if the jobs where there... at least thats how the leeches down here would work... IE NOT.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Walker would want it to go through Valdez first. I like to see them run a natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe down through Fairbanks to a gas liquification plant in Nenena where it could be barged to bush communities then on down to Pt. Mackenzie. That's probably pie in the sky dreaming and I have no idea if would even be financially feasible but it would be an all Alaska pipeline and could have distribution nodes at every community along the way. Might make for cheaper natural gas and some fuel alternatives for the bush and smaller road communities. The excess gas could be marketed. I think Japan would take all we could produce. I guess I wouldn't have too much heartburn over that as long as the pipeline stayed in Alaska. However, it would make better economic sense the way I proposed it. It would impact more communities and with a gas plant in Pt Mackenzie and Nenana could provide more jobs to locals than going along the existing pipeline route. Of course I was being sarcastic. There has been millions spent in anticipation of the gas plant to go in at Nikiski. Now, Walker is F-ing with that with his Valdez alternate.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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