Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Rimfires Finally said screw it and decided to build a tackdriver from scratch

For what it is worth I have called and talked to the guys at Clark Custom and they recommended bedding the barrel and floating the action too. With only one action screw on the factory Ruger receiver it tends to rock, which bedding the barrel helps. Not sure how this plays out if you add one of the Kidd rear action screws, but I plan to find out.

wish we would have just went with a full Kidd barreled action, but I always have to learn the hard way!

I bed the receiver so it's super solid. Not sure how a rear action screw works, haven't seen one.

I have the lug resting in glass as it pulls downward on the action/barrel junction. Not sure if that helps, just seems to me it should dampen vibrations and stop any lateral movement.

A tight barrel/action fit is good. I had to slowly cut the Clark/Walther barrel shank to snugly fit in the action. A tight fit cuts down on slop and has to have a positive effect on vibrations.

DF

This is a full Kidd barreled action.

how about posting a couple pictures of the bedding area? i know i would really appreciate it, as i have yet to bed mine.

I'll try to get those photos posted this PM.

I'd like to see photos of that Kidd action and how the rear action screw works.

DF

I edited to delete "receiver lug". That was an error. I bed the receiver so it, like the barrel, rests on glass as downward tension is applied by the lug/"V" block screw.

I'll get those bedding photos posted tonight.

I try to eliminate all the motion I can while keeping tension on the barrel/receiver hook up.

DF

Nice plan on the 10-22. I hope you have better luck with the elite 6-24 than I did with an elite 10x tactical I had on my 10-22. I simply couldn't get it to focus at 25 yds and marginally at 50 yds. and also had an issue with paralax. With a center fire I could live with a scope that is a little fuzzy at closer range, but not so on a 22 rf. I put a leupold 3.5-10 on it and that cured the focus issue.

Thanks, 458. I may just go with the Leupold VX3 3.5-10 anyway. I'll have to check viz with both scopes once I get the gun back.

One reason I may go with the Leupold 3.5-10 is I want to be able to carry it in the woods. The Bushnell 6-24x40 AO is a big scope and probably great for a benchrest gun or a bigger center fire, but maybe not so great on a light as a feather carry 10/22.

I like the Leupold 3-9x33 EFR pictured above. It's a great .22 scope. I can adjust parallax any way I want, can shoot on my 50' indoor range with no problem.

DF

Here are the bedding photos I promised.

I bedded the rear of the receiver and the forward barrel channel as shown. I then came back and bedded the V block with mild downward pressure. Once it's all dry, I can snug the action screw which I feel dampens vibrations, stiffens the barreled action and eliminates movement from recoil.

Be sure the safety is in neutral position so it won't dig into the wood as the barreled action is removed from the stock.

Not my prettiest bedding job, but it seems to work.

DF

Dirt farmer did you apply the forearm bedding after you bedded the action ?

Two phase bedding.

First phase, bed the rear of the action and the forward barrel channel as shown. Don't tighten the action screw very much.

Second phase, glass the sides of the action and under the V block. Tighten the action screw, putting tension (not a lot) on the barreled action.

I'm not sure how others do it, this method seemed to work for me.

DF

Once dry, you can snug the action screw down pretty tight, securing the V block.

DF

i have a different approach or thought process about bedding but again i was dealing with a bolt action. i bedded and installed pillars in my M77/22 and bedded the first 1 1/2" under the barrel but i wanted a stress free set up. if i needed upward barrel pressure at the forearm then i would add it back in later. i ended up not putting it back in as the free floated barrel shot well. after drilling out the action screw holes i installed the pillars to the action with the action screws and some tape wrapped around the screws to keep them centered in the pillars. tightened the screws good and tight and made sure plenty or release was on the end of the pillar that was up against the action. plenty of release on the action as well. then set the whole assembly into the bedding goo and strap in to hold until set. after setting then i undid the action screws and pulled the action out of the stock. now when i reassemble the action to the stock i have a stress free set up. it's the only way to get a repeatable bolt up. If any pressure pad is need then it is applied afterwards. i was thinking along the same lines for my 10/22. i have the barrel free floated now and it's shooting pretty good. i have the GM sporter barrel on it not a bull barrel so barrel droop has not been an issue for me yet.

Agree with that approach for a bolt gun.

The way the 10-22 is put together with the V block, this way seems best. I do pillar and float bolt guns, but those barrels are screwed tightly into the receiver.

Some custom makers do the 10-22 that way, but with the factory V block set up, I don't think bedding the action and floating the barrel will work as well as this set up.

I've heard about the Kidd with a rear action screw, haven't seen it, even looking at their web site. With front and rear action screws maybe bedding it like a bolt gun would work OK.

DF

My M77/22 is the same slip fit setup as the 10/22.
one other option if the barrel fit is a tad loose to the action is to loct-tight it into the action. or use the aftermarket V-Block with the barrel tension screw.

LD,

You gotta this fugkin' thing put together yet?




Travis

No chit??

Been at the gunnie's since end of last week. Chompin' at the bit, but trying to keep from bugging him.

Good call actually.




Travis