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Hold off for wind is BC, not weight, dependent.
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Campfire Oracle
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You'd obviously not know, since you've never killed anything remotely that big, unless you shot yourself in the mouth somehow. I have shot a few loads in a couple of Texas gals, I'd not be surprised if one or all weren't related to you.
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Campfire Oracle
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How many deer have you shot with a 22CF, FA Graider?
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Campfire Ranger
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When the .222 first hit the market, a friend bought a new 722 in .222.. that fall he shot 11 mule deer bucks with it.. But deer were thick in those days, and I suppose he did not shoot very far as he had only open sights at the time... But he mostly used his model 70 .30-06..
I have shot at least 60 head of big game with .22 caliber rifles.. But I picked my shots, and took no chances.. None were trophy size game..
It will do the job for sure, but for big bucks, I want a bit more for deer hunting on public land..
Molon Labe
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Never had the desire to use wood bats when I could use aluminum, not even when I was broke.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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Campfire Oracle
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Never had the desire to use wood bats when I could use aluminum, not even when I was broke. Gotcha, no [bleep] experience, just talking out your ass.
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Campfire Outfitter
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Jeez, what an idiot. Aluminum over wood? Guess he never found the sweet spot on anything.
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Campfire Tracker
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Never had the desire to use wood bats when I could use aluminum, not even when I was broke. Amazing what a good hitter can do with a wood bat.....
Luck....is the residue of design...
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Campfire Oracle
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I would imagine that Pat, like myself, has "threaded the needle" more than once...
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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You don't count scenar........but even Ted Williams himself would get more hits with aluminum.
Last edited by JGRaider; 09/03/15.
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Jeez, what an idiot. Aluminum over wood? Guess he never found the sweet spot on anything. He's a wannabe/pretender.
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Campfire Oracle
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JGR: I wouldn't choose the .222 as my first choice for deer, but Ive never been in a situation deer hunting when I would have felt inadequate with the .223AI
That said...Im hoping to use the deuce this fall...meat, not trophy hunting, so the shot will be carefully chosen.( as it should be in both cases actually...)
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Keep in mind I never said it wouldn't work. If I were going whitetail doe culling, aoudad ewe culling, etc, I may try it with head shots, etc, but it would never be my choice for a big deer, big aoudad, or big whitetail killer. Also keep in mind I don't hunt out of stands,etc and usually have as many moving shots as standing still ones.
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I'm with JGR on this. The 15 or 30 mph winds in west Texas, changed me to an 06 pushing 180s at respectable speed. That is much more than needed to kill deer, but absolutely needed to hit them with careful hold off.
Jack Shootin' in wind like that must be crazy!!! Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I've got two 8 point bucks hanging here on the wall that were killed with a Remington 788 .222 and handloaded 55 grain Nosler solid base bullets. The bigger of the two is a pretty nice buck for here and dressed 172 lbs.. He was taken with a quartering away lung shot from 125 yards and went straight down.
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Bruce, my late oldest brother used a 340 savage in .222 for mulies, blacktail, and whitetails for years. after he was killed my nephew used it for years on same. after he became a felon I got the gun. took many mulies with it. That's a recommendation I value for sure. it will do the job just like any other when properly applied. I never shot a deer anywhere than behind the ear or between the eyes, no matter the flavor of caliber for the first thirty years of my life. then I learned from the experts in magazines like G&A that that was all wrong. all that I shot with that placement were on the ground before they heard the shot. Now that I have taken to using the experts placement of behind the shoulder in the last 30 years of my life I have become a better tracker. its all good.
the consolidation of the states into one vast republic, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of that ruin which has overwhelmed all those that have preceded. Robert E Lee ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Keep in mind I never said it wouldn't work. If I were going whitetail doe culling, aoudad ewe culling, etc, I may try it with head shots, etc, but it would never be my choice for a big deer, big aoudad, or big whitetail killer. Also keep in mind I don't hunt out of stands,etc and usually have as many moving shots as standing still ones. Yea, we don't get to bait them, or tie them to mineral blocks in the back yard out west.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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I have shot over 25 deer with my 222 with 55 grain Sierra hp, including 1 mule deer scoring 175. Big bodied,to be be sure. I have shot them in the neck,head and through the lungs,and it works really well. Shoot with confidence.
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Bruce,
Aren't you glad you started this?
Once hunted musk ox with an Inuit from one of the islands in the Arctic Ocean, and he was a firm believer in anything MAGNUM, because he used a .22 Winchester Rimfire Magnum on polar bears, and had never taken more than one shot to kill a bear, and never lost a bear either.
Which is why I would much prefer the .222 MAGNUM....
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
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I recall the Remington Nylon 66 ad from the 60's with the rifle lying in the bottom of a umiak in a pool of blood and seawater. The .22 was their rifle for seal hunting.
My home is the "sanctuary residence" for my firearms.
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