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Do your gun shops even inventory Wingmasters? I have not seen one on the gun racks anyplace in a LONG time I agree, the 870 Wingmaster gun shop rack space is now lined with 870 Express shotguns or Mossbergs. Doc
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870s are great. Check out Ithaca, if the new company is building them right, they are the best field pump. Very light, smooth and stylish, not a gun for shooting trap, but fantastic for birds. Built with a steel frame they will hold up to a lot of shooting, but they are light enough that I do not like to shoot them too much.
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Do yourself a favor and buy a BPS 20
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I think one of the English stocked BPS upland specials in 16 Guage would ooze uber, one the same in a 20
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Cant feel the love for any bottom feeder..
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Cant feel the love for any bottom feeder.. Yep times 2....  Doc
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I'd take the cheapest Turkish clunker over anything coming out of Remington currently
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Well their is that option.
Why no love for arguably one of the finest pump shotguns ever made? Or is it the new stuff that you dont like?
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I love older 870s and have a very well worn wingman term that belonged to my dad. Current products from Remington are trash
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This is a early 90's Wingmaster with B grade trap wood, buttery smooth, its a good one. Killed more birds than cancer.... ![[Linked Image]](http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/passport3006/IMG_1633_zpsvqzut9cq.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/passport3006/IMG_1634_zpsfxyalfhy.jpg) Gorgeous 870! Bob
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I've been looking for a really good older 20 gauge Wingmaster for awhile with no luck so far.
I read Cheesy's suggestion about the Ithaca's and checked out gunbroker. There are some older 20s there that IMO look pretty good.
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Here is a REALLY REALLY good 20 bore 870.... Its all the dough but probly worth it.. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=508381682
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Field, you started this while I was away.. I have 6 Wingmasters.. I have had several model 37's.. I like them, but prefer the Wingmaster.. My newest one is probably at least 15 years old.. It is a 28 ga. the checkering seems to be fine, it functions perfectly.. I have two 20's that are a bit older.. I bought them when my first wife was still alive and we hunted together.. They have never given me a moments problem.. Also an old 870 from the mid 70's.. My main shotgun..
I like all of these models.. I would say the old Wingmaster from ten+ years ago would serve your purpose very well.. As you know I like pumps.. I have a 97, a model 12, and a Rem. model 31.. I like them all but the 870's get far more use than any of the others.. I haven't used an Express or owned one.. But those I have handled were pretty rough..
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Well their is that option.
Why no love for arguably one of the finest pump shotguns ever made? Or is it the new stuff that you dont like? I worked the gun counter at the local Academy during the wettest spring and summer in memory back in 2012. The Remington 870s with matte finish were rusting in the racks. I oiled them at least once a week during that period. The bean counters have pushed the engineers out and are making decisions that reduce the quality of the products in the name of profit. A friend has a matte 12 gauge turkey gun and it has to be wiped down every time he takes it out or it will rust. My late uncle had an early 1970s Wingmaster that I would love to have, so I am not a Remington hater. It is just the finish on the Express shotguns and 700s that I dislike. Also, I am left handed, so the Ithaca and Browning pumps do appeal to me. A left hand safety and I have a left hand gun and the empties do not fly across my face.
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The rough finish that Remington makes today is not properly washed off after bluing IMO. Im told that if you take those new guns and give them a bath, soapy water, you can wash off the salt and stop the rust issues.
There is still salt left on them and that's why they rust so easily. They either need to figure out a better way to clean them after bluing or not make the finish so dam rough.
Reason # 1000000 to find a Wingmaster..
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Field, you started this while I was away.. I have 6 Wingmasters.. I have had several model 37's.. I like them, but prefer the Wingmaster.. My newest one is probably at least 15 years old.. It is a 28 ga. the checkering seems to be fine, it functions perfectly.. I have two 20's that are a bit older.. I bought them when my first wife was still alive and we hunted together.. They have never given me a moments problem.. Also an old 870 from the mid 70's.. My main shotgun..
I like all of these models.. I would say the old Wingmaster from ten+ years ago would serve your purpose very well.. As you know I like pumps.. I have a 97, a model 12, and a Rem. model 31.. I like them all but the 870's get far more use than any of the others.. I haven't used an Express or owned one.. But those I have handled were pretty rough..
Thanks WCH,,,,, Like you, I'm unfamiliar with the new 870's whether Wingmaster or Express but I do know that the Wingmaster was once a great shotgun and I was hoping they were still at least acceptable. I probably knew the answer before I asked though. I'm not sure what I'll do at this point. Maybe I'll get lucky and stumble on a NIB older WM I can afford but I ain't holding my breath. Fortunately I have some time to sort it out.
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A good used one, even if not new-in-box, would make a great gift. They're hard to wear out....
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Another thought....870s just balance better than almost any pump shotgun to me. I realize this is a personal thing, but Wingmasters carry nicely...I hold them where the magazine tube meets the receiver, and they balance well, usually two fingers on the magazine tube and two fingers under the receiver. Borrowed a friends 1300 XTR one day just to try it. It carried like a long 2 x 4. The balance point was ahead of the receiver, and to keep the muzzle from dropping I had to carry it by the foreend. It was a nice shooter, but you couldn't pay me to carry that gun another couple miles.
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I bought a new 28 ga. WM a few years ago. One of the choke tubes got stuck in it because the barrel had a kink in it. Remington replaced it with a new barrel.
The action bars were not straight. Eventually the thing lost the bolt and the barrel during a trap session just recently.....
I love the way the gun handles. Best close cover grouse and Mtn. Quail gun I've ever used. But it's QC sucks. E
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I bought a new 28 ga. WM a few years ago. One of the choke tubes got stuck in it because the barrel had a kink in it. Remington replaced it with a new barrel.
The action bars were not straight. Eventually the thing lost the bolt and the barrel during a trap session just recently.....
I love the way the gun handles. Best close cover grouse and Mtn. Quail gun I've ever used. But it's QC sucks. E Did you send the gun back? What did Remington do?
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