Home Forums Birds & Dogs Waterfowl Non toxic shot in older guns.

Print Thread

Hop To

Page 1 of 2

Non toxic shot in older guns. #10425902 09/13/15
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 621 B bkraft OP Campfire Regular
OP bkraft Campfire Regular B Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 621	I would like to know what types, brands etc that I can use in my Dads Stevens 311 20 ga. The gun is chocked full and mod. Mostly ducks over a small pond. bkraft "Four things greater than all things are, Women and Horses and Power and War."

GB1

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10428916 09/14/15
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 190 Troy, MI 1 16gauge Campfire Member
16gauge Campfire Member 1 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 190 Troy, MI	Your choices are basically bismuth, NICE shot, tungsten matrix, or Hevishot classic doubles (not HEVISHOT in itself). If you reload, you could try Ballistic products ITX shot also. I used steel shot in my 12 gauge 311, but it had more open (IC and Modified) chokes. My problem with steel shot in the smaller gauges is that the pellets are too big in order to kill ducks cleanly, so the patterns tend to be sparse. "If you dog thinks you're the greatest, don't go seeking a second opinion!"

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10528604 10/05/15
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,213 Southern Colorado Alamosa Campfire Tracker
Alamosa Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,213 Southern Colorado	Bismuth is expensive but performs really well. Deadly. Safe for old barrels. Haven't tried the other loads mentioned.

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. Alamosa #10529020 10/06/15
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Alberta catnthehat Campfire Tracker
catnthehat Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Alberta	I've been hand loading Bismuth and Nice Shot for about ten years now, and to a lesser extent, ITX. I really like Nice Shot, works very well in my 100 year old hammer doubles and drops geese dead! Cat scopes are cool, but slings 'n' irons RULE!

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10538360 10/08/15
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098 G gitem_12 Campfire Ranger
gitem_12 Campfire Ranger G Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098	Hevishot makes a vintage gun load. There is a small company in Pa that specifically loads an old gun friendly non toxic. I believe RSR? The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell

IC B2

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10538926 10/08/15
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 4,064 WA to NM erich Campfire Tracker
erich Campfire Tracker Joined: May 2002 Posts: 4,064 WA to NM	7/8 oz ITX 6's in a 12ga 2.5" case for the old girl, it is a supriseingly effective load. Last edited by erich; 10/08/15. After the first shot the rest are just noise. Make mine a Minaska Heaven has walls and rules, H-ll has open borders

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10540342 10/08/15
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,833 Craigmont, Idaho M mart Campfire Tracker
mart Campfire Tracker M Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,833 Craigmont, Idaho	Rio has a bismuth load and Hevishot has their classic doubles. All good stuff. I load bismuth and ITX for my field guns and in fact don't own a modern shotgun for field shooting, so all my guns require either, ITX, bismuth or tungsten matrix for waterfowl. I do have an 870 tricked out as a short barreled fur calling shotgun but it never gets used for waterfowl. Good luck finding any Nice Shot. I've been on their notify me list for close to 2 years. Same with RSR. I haven't been able to get any of their non toxic stuff for 2 years. Last edited by mart; 10/08/15. Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10549956 10/10/15
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098 G gitem_12 Campfire Ranger
gitem_12 Campfire Ranger G Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098	Mart. Contact Rst shotshell company 570-553-1651 www.rstshells.com The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10552036 10/11/15
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,833 Craigmont, Idaho M mart Campfire Tracker
mart Campfire Tracker M Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,833 Craigmont, Idaho	I checked a couple of month ago and they didn't have anything. That would be great if they had some Non Tox loads in stock. I'll contact them tomorrow. Apparently they never update their website. All their Nice shot stuff is listed as out of stock. Last edited by mart; 10/11/15. Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10552200 10/11/15
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098 G gitem_12 Campfire Ranger
gitem_12 Campfire Ranger G Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098	I'd be damned if I ever pay 75 bucks for a box of shotgun shells The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell

IC B3

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10552228 10/11/15
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098 G gitem_12 Campfire Ranger
gitem_12 Campfire Ranger G Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098	Ballistic products. Has ITX in stock The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10555040 10/12/15
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,833 Craigmont, Idaho M mart Campfire Tracker
mart Campfire Tracker M Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,833 Craigmont, Idaho	I normally wouldn't but I'd like to try some Nice shot to see if it's any better than Bismuth or ITX. So far I've not been able to buy any, either the loaded shells or the Nice Shot itself. Seems they don't answer emails or voice mail at either place. I have a fair amount of ITX in 2's and 4's and bought a few boxes of the old Bismuth 10 gauge 2 7/8" when I found a shop closing some out. Last edited by mart; 10/12/15. Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10556064 10/12/15
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,517 n.w. new mexico splattermatic Campfire Outfitter
splattermatic Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,517 n.w. new mexico	And that is one reason I scrapped the idea of a sxs, as my new duck gun. 75 bucks a box!!!!.....not in my lifetime.

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10556356 10/12/15
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098 G gitem_12 Campfire Ranger
gitem_12 Campfire Ranger G Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 17,098	Buy a CZ. they are steel proofed The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. splattermatic #10556788 10/12/15
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,833 Craigmont, Idaho M mart Campfire Tracker
mart Campfire Tracker M Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,833 Craigmont, Idaho	Originally Posted by splattermatic And that is one reason I scrapped the idea of a sxs, as my new duck gun. 75 bucks a box!!!!.....not in my lifetime. It's the Nice Shot stuff that's $75 a box. The Rio Bismuth is considerably less. And reloading ITX or Bismuth, while not cheap, lets a guy shoot his old doubles with out going broke. I don't duck hunt as much as I'd like but when I do I'm going to do it with a classic gun, either a double or my Sweet Sixteen. That's just me. I get a lot of enjoyment out of shooting classic guns and putting them back to work at the jobs for which they were built. Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10647076 11/01/15
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,958 SD M Magnum_Man Campfire Regular
Magnum_Man Campfire Regular M Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,958 SD	Hey Mart, I've got an Ithaca Flues model 10 ga 2 7/8" what no tox loads could you recommend for that? Magnum Man

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. Magnum_Man #10648048 11/01/15
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 4,064 WA to NM erich Campfire Tracker
erich Campfire Tracker Joined: May 2002 Posts: 4,064 WA to NM	I'd be shooting 1 1/4 oz Of ITX out of it. My buddy is out in ND and is taking geese and pheasants with a Baker 2 7/8" 10 ga shooting that load. I Like to shoot 7/8 oz of ITX 6's in my old 12ga hammer gun. It has proven to be very effective over decoys. I use 1 oz of ITX BB's out of my old guns for coyotes in Non-Tox sites. Fridays outing. Last edited by erich; 11/01/15. After the first shot the rest are just noise. Make mine a Minaska Heaven has walls and rules, H-ll has open borders

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. erich #10648062 11/01/15
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 4,064 WA to NM erich Campfire Tracker
erich Campfire Tracker Joined: May 2002 Posts: 4,064 WA to NM	A guy has a $1000.+ shotgun, $1500. dog, $10,000-$20,000 boat, $35,000 truck, motel, gas, and food for a duck hunt and they worry about a $75. box of shells. My hand loads cost about $35/bx but shooting ducks with a century old shotgun is priceless. How any Italian Semi-Autos do you think will still be killing ducks a century from now. After the first shot the rest are just noise. Make mine a Minaska Heaven has walls and rules, H-ll has open borders

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. erich #10651292 11/02/15
Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 5,866 Crack whore hollow Tn. S seal_billy Campfire Tracker
seal_billy Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 5,866 Crack whore hollow Tn.	Originally Posted by erich A guy has a $1000.+ shotgun, $1500. dog, $10,000-$20,000 boat, $35,000 truck, motel, gas, and food for a duck hunt and they worry about a $75. box of shells. My hand loads cost about $35/bx but shooting ducks with a century old shotgun is priceless. How any Italian Semi-Autos do you think will still be killing ducks a century from now. Almost every SBE/SBEII, M1/M2, 390/391 and extrema in use today. A 75 dollar box of shells every weekend of the season will end up costing half what a new Benelli would cost. When hell freezes over. Eating fried chicken and watermelon since 1972. You tell me how I ought to be, yet you don't even know your own sexuality,, the philosopher,,, you know so much about nothing at all. Chuck Schuldiner

Re: Non toxic shot in older guns. bkraft #10651318 11/02/15
Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 5,866 Crack whore hollow Tn. S seal_billy Campfire Tracker
seal_billy Campfire Tracker S Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 5,866 Crack whore hollow Tn.	The A5 has proven autos stand the test of time. Eating fried chicken and watermelon since 1972. You tell me how I ought to be, yet you don't even know your own sexuality,, the philosopher,,, you know so much about nothing at all. Chuck Schuldiner

Page 1 of 2

Moderated by RickBin

Link Copied to Clipboard

YB23

562 members (1minute, 260Remguy, 160user, 10gaugemag, 10GaugeKS, 1Longbow, 62 invisible), 2,128 guests, and 1,247 robots.

Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod

April
S	M	T	W	T	F	S
	1	2	3	4	5	6
7	8	9	10	11	12	13
14	15	16	17	18	19	20
21	22	23	24	25	26	27
28	29	30

Forum Statistics

Forums81

Topics1,190,287

Posts18,448,910

Members73,900

Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023