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Welcome, Crank. DF, I can't answer that, I've only seated them just off the lands and looked no further.



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Welcome, Crank. DF, I can't answer that, I've only seated them just off the lands and looked no further.


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They're evidently not that COAL sensitive.

I'll probably jump them around .02" and see how they do.

I'm going to work up loads with Varget.

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I'm finding that a 165 gr ballistic tip over 46 gr of CFE223 (W-W brass, Fed 210 primer) is shooting well in a couple different rifles.

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175 SMK loaded to 2.815 over 41.7 gr IMR 4064 in LC brass lit by a Fed 210 GMM. About 2650 in a 26 inch tube. Very mild and silly accurate.

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Originally Posted by CrankEmUp
Anybody have data on 308 and 155 Scenar???


I've had good results from 45gr R15 behind 155gr Scenars. My results from pay 13 of this thread:

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45gr R15 behind 155gr Bullets seems to be a good accuracy node in my rifle. Two different bullets, two different cases, two different primers but the same powder charge produce great accuracy for me. These are 10 shot groups.

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Here's a follow up on the 155gr Scenar load shown above. Shot these on Friday.

400m, 8" plate, .242 MOA

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500m, 8" plate, .309 MOA

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AA 4064 data seems hard to come by. I have a couple pounds to use up, and may buy more based on availability. I love the way it meters.

Getting great accuracy out of my Tikka Compact with the following:

165 Gameking
Lapua Brass
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44.5 AA4064
2583 FPS from 20" barrel

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40 grains of IMR3031 under a Hornady 165 grain Spitz BT in Rem Brass with CCI 200 primers gave 2530 fps and 5 shot group right at 1" at 100 yds in Savage 99 EG 308Win.


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I bought a custom Rem 7 .308 from Varmintsinc a while back and had it out to the range today to do some load testing.

I'll take either of the top two loads for a hunting load. The top left is 150 gr. TTSX over 46 gr. of Varget using Win 1x brass. It's a 3/4" group

The top right is the same except for a 150 Accubond and measures 0.192".

Interestingly enough, my brand new Lapua brass didn't produce as tight of groups. Maybe 1x has something to do with it?

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Lapua brass generally likes a bit less powder than WW.

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51 grains of CFE223 under a 150 Hornady flat based Interlock produced 1/2-3/4 minute from my Ruger American at 200 yards. It clocked 2934 fps. COAL 2.750 (book)My rifle likes these much better than the 165s and it does not like Partitions at all.


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165 gr partition over 45 gr of Varget in FC brass and a Fed 210 primer. A couple of my rifles liked it, one rifle did not.

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165 gr Interbond over 46 gr of Varget. Sub MOA in 3 of my rifles...two model 7s and a Shaw barreled 700.

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79,,, Between my wife with her 300 Savage and me with 30 gibbs we've killed a ton of moose and probably 15 brown bears with the 165 Hornady. I've found it performs like a 180 except a trifle faster.


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Question for the experience 308win users.

How good is Lake City Long Range brass? Use is for hunting applications, not competition shooting. Any idea as how many reloads one can get out of this brass?

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The number of reloads depends heavily on the sizing regimen you use.

Suppose you're not overworking the case by sizing the body down to like new dimensions every firing. Then the effects of fatigue fall mainly on the case neck.

LC brass is usually on the thick side. Loaded rounds typically measure .337" on the neck OD. So a sized neck only needs reducing to .335" or so. If you're using a collet or bushing type size die this is easily achieved.

Now let's suppose you're using an off the shelf Redding FL die like one I have. In order to accommodate all types/thicknesses of brass it has a neck section a good bit smaller than .335". This particular die is on the small side with sized but not expanded brass coming out of the die with .328" necks. So if it's expanded via expander ball or other means to the desired .335" before seating a bullet that's .014" (.007" down, .007" up) of unnecessary cold working the neck material undergoes every loading cycle.


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This is why I LOVE the .308!

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Yesterday I put my .308 barrel on my rifle to play with it for a while. It's a Bartlein 2B contour finished at 24" and I had not yet shot it. I had a bunch of ammo developed for another rifle loaded up. It is shown in previous pages of this thread and had shot extremely well in my Stiller Predator with a #5 Brux. Anyway, the rounds I put out for the sighters looked good, so when I made the scope adjustment I went ahead and shot a 10 shot group which is what you see on the left side of the target. Ten shots in one ragged hole with a load not even developed for this rifle. I LOVE .308s. NOTHING is easier to get to shoot well.

The load is 45r R15 behind the 155r Lapua Scenar in Lapua brass. I didn't chrono it out of this barrel, but out of the 24" Brux I developed that load for it averaged 2865fps.

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Here are a couple loads my new Savage Lightweight Hunter liked. Velocities were from a 20" barrel. These are the first and only two loads I've tried so far in this rifle. I think I'm going to like this one.

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Hello Scott, I hope all is well.
I wanted to tell you, I like your rifle, and that's some good shooting.

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This load is looking good so far. I need to check if it's repeatable but given it's five shots I'm confident it will be.

The OAL is base-to-ogive using a Sinclair bullet comparator.

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