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Am new to AR platform. Having fun with my LMT CQBPS, but disappointed with trigger. Heavy and gritty take up and heavy 2nd stage. Used to. Sako, pre64 70's, S&W, etc. complained to LMT & mgt at store purchased. LMT said they do offer a non mil spec trigger; place of purchase recommended a Timiney and assures me I can install myself. Do AR owners typically install better triggers? I am thinking targets and varmints, not war. Is the Timiney the way to go & worth the $200?

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Geissele is what you want.


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Yes, most of us install better triggers.

Probably the 2 most commonly used are Rock River and Geissele.

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for varmints RRA varmint trigger! they had them on sale for $70 try it! I have it in one of my hunting guns...for a self defense gun Geissle.


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Geissele is my go-to trigger system for AR platforms that may be used in a non recreational capacity.


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I have the Rock River 2 stage match on my heavy barreled varment AR


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Go with the RRA. For $80, you can't beat it.

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I have 5 Timney triggers and love everyone but I like a single stage trigger.

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If you bet your life on it, buy a Geisselle. If it's just for fun, save your money and look at other options.

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I would bet my life on a Timney.

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I'd bet mine on a mil spec trigger.

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A Geissele G2S is a very nice 2 stage trigger for around $160. I have two and they will be on any future ARs I get.


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buy a wolf spring kit..............
the combo 2 spring kit for around 11
or just the trigger spring for 5
and stone down the front engagement surface of the trigger housing and the engagement surface of the hammer

you really don't even need to spend $11 on the wolf spring kit
just stoning the engagement surfaces alone greatly improves the trigger
you cant get them down to the 4-5 pd range by stoning
and they are a lot smoother
then add a wolf kit and you can get them down around 3.5-4poundish range
still have the 2 stage feel but a heck of a lot less perceived take up and then a noticeably smooterh pull for it to go bang
you wont feel the grit or drag typical like in an unmodified trigger

no reason to spend upwards 200 bucks at all when the parts that are in the weapon just need a little work and tweeking

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as has been mentioned many times on this forum, the trigger stoning removes the surface hardening.


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I prefer the elftmann tactical trigger over the timney. They are in the same price point, definitely worth a look.

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Stoning the trigger works great...for a while. Before long, it will wear, and doubling can occur. I just removed one like this from a rifle. I figured "Hey, its a hunting gun, how many rounds will it really see?" Well, not that many,around 1000 or so, and it started doubling.

For $70 shipped, I put a Rock River in it, and its a much better trigger all around. Its not a Geiselle, but "Hey, its a hunting gun, how many rounds will it really see?"

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Originally Posted by liliysdad
Stoning the trigger works great...for a while. Before long, it will wear,


And to what do you attribute the (premature?) wear to?

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Originally Posted by deere2320
I would bet my life on a Timney.


I like the Timney AR triggers, but no way would I go this far.

I had one in a suppressed SBR, good trigger pull, but it became a single shot. Wouldn't reset with the can on. I did some research and apparently I'm not the only one that's experienced this.

Switched my Geissele in and all was right with the world again.

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as I understand it only the surface of the trigger is hardened.


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Maybe someone can ask Bill Speingfield about stoning triggers and what happens down the road.


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