|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666 |
I'm going to shoot some pheasants this weekend. What is a typical field load in 12 gauge? The farm says they recommend steel, but will allow lead. I'm shooting a Model 12 with a poly-choke.
Thanks for any input.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,073
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 4,073 |
Wild birds over pointing dogs, one ounce of six's in a 2.5" 12 ga. I will some times back it with a 5 in the second barrel. I've used the same loads when I'm shooting backup they just seem to work well for me.
Game farm birds 7 1/2 trap loads work great, I used them for shorting pheasants at hunt tests.
Last edited by erich; 09/28/15.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
Make mine a Minaska
Heaven has walls and rules, H-ll has open borders
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666 |
Thanks for commentary.
Is the trap load similar to a target load, versus a field load? I just found some steel shells that had to have been sold to me at the last farm I attended, but they marked water fowl and are 4's...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 8,167
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 8,167 |
I use a heavy lead load like the older "duck and pheasant" loads. 1 1/4 oz max dram loads of either 4,5,6, or 7 1/2 shot.
This is for wild birds, pen raised birds don't take nearly as much killing and a trap load will usually work fine.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 17,775
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 17,775 |
If you can locate a heavy field load for your 12 ga. it will kill as far as a guy can hit..
It will have 3 1/4 drams of powder- 1 1/4 oz. of shot 5's are my favorite..
The heavy load of duck and pheasant is 3 3/4 drams of powder.. More recoil, but also the heavy duck load is easier to find..
As far as shot size, my pick is 5's,then 4's, then 6's.. I have used all three.. To me the heavier of the three sizes are the better.. 6's can put a lot of shot into a bird. 4 & 5's kill super with less pellets.. Again 5's would be my first choice..
Molon Labe
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666 |
Thanks for all the input, guys...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 8,573
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 8,573 |
Fiocchi Golden Phesant load. All you'll ever need.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 17,775
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 17,775 |
sse, I have shot the Golden Phesant load 47 mentions.. But it is 1 3/8 oz. load and rather fast.. It is certainly a killer with the high quality nicked plated shot.. And it will kill pheasants, grouse, etc. very dead.. BUT it has more recoil than I want to deal with when shooting roosters or most other game.. In an auto, it would be fine, but since you and I shoot pumps, there is nothing to help soften the recoil.. Don't get me wrong, it is a great load, but more than we need for shooting under 45 yards..
Molon Labe
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666 |
Thanks, Wyo, and thanks to all...most insightful.
Eventually, I'll try and post pics of both the firearm (she's a looker) and the birds...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666 |
This is what I got in #6. Was on sale at the local chain retailer. They didn't have much else, selection wise. Remington Pheasant Loads
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Campfire Sage
|
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424 |
I'd try and snag some #5's.
My dad always used 6's but I like 5's the mostest.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666 |
Did some research and looks like I discovered why the earlier game farm, which insists on steel, sold me #4's...due to their lower density. They are 2 3/4, 1 1/16, #4, 1550 FPS. They did work fine, but as mentioned, the one I'm going to has no restriction.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Campfire Sage
|
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424 |
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 17,775
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 17,775 |
ss, those will work ok.. They are the heavy duck loads at 1330 fps.. Just a bit more recoil.. I think 5's are kind of tough to find some times.. If you are going to shoot often, I bought a bunch of RST ammo and had it shipped to my home.. They have a wide variety of loads not common in other factory ammo.. Good luck and have fun..
As you see, deflave agrees with fives.. Then there can be NO QUESTION THEY ARE THE BEST!!!!!
Molon Labe
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,455
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,455 |
I like #5 or #6 shot for pheasants
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666 |
I would get 5's if I had the chance to shop around for them. Also, this is a one time deal, though I may try it again sometime between now and February.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 12,625
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 12,625 |
Wild birds over pointing dogs, one ounce of six's in a 2.5" 12 ga. I will some times back it with a 5 in the second barrel. I've used the same loads when I'm shooting backup they just seem to work well for me.
Game farm birds 7 1/2 trap loads work great, I used them for shorting pheasants at hunt tests. Don't you mean 2 3/4" NOT 2 1/2"????
NRA Endowment Life Member (and proud of it)
Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. - Plato
Deuteronomy 22:5
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Campfire Sage
|
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424 |
As you see, deflave agrees with fives.. Then there can be NO QUESTION THEY ARE THE BEST!!!!!
+1. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 18,666 |
Don't you mean 2 3/4" NOT 2 1/2"???? I'm sure that is what he meant.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 8,573
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 8,573 |
For less recoil than Golden Pheasant, there's Winchester Upland & Small game. 3 1/4,1 1/4,#5s (1220 fps). Symbol is X12P5.
|
|
|
|
548 members (007FJ, 10gaugemag, 1lesfox, 1Longbow, 11point, 12344mag, 48 invisible),
2,511
guests, and
1,237
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,191,360
Posts18,468,953
Members73,931
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|