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Not one Jew was ever 'gassed' during WWII. It's been proven beyond ALL doubt to be nothing but bad Jewish propaganda in order to secure Palestine. Anyone with an iq above room temp and an open mind can figure it out in about two hours if they'd actually look into it. That's a subject for a different thread however.

Gassing the Jews was never "legal" which is why it was kept hidden. All your rambling about "laws" has nothing at all with some trying to dictate morality and religion.

There are no laws forcing anyone to have an abortion if they don't want one, and it's none of your business who does it.

YOU don't get to decide what is "acceptable" for anyone other than yourself. It's a really simple concept you can't seem to grasp. I haven't made any laws at all.

Are you really that stupid, or is it just that you can't think of anything intelligent to add?

Snyper, you say no one has the right to tell others what to do,right.So any behavior is acceptable to you,right.Everybody should be able to live their life the way they choose.Is this what you are saying.

Not one Jew was ever 'gassed' during WWII. It's been proven beyond ALL doubt to be nothing but bad Jewish propaganda in order to secure Palestine. Anyone with an iq above room temp and an open mind can figure it out in about two hours if they'd actually look into it. That's a subject for a different thread however.

Protesting by not having an abortion does nothing to change bad law...a law that nullifies the first principle of our Republic.

Protesting by not having an abortion does nothing to change bad law...a law that nullifies the first principle of our Republic.

If you need more; I got plenty...

WASHINGTON, D.C., October 2, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) - Presidential candidate Carly Fiorina was right when she said an undercover video shows an intact baby's leg twitching after an abortion, according to the pro-life group that shot the video.

The former Hewlett-Packard CEO has come under fire since saying at the last presidential debate, "I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking while someone says, ‘We have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.’” Numerous outlets accuse her of lying, some going so far as to say none of the footage she described exists.
Fiorina is referring to a scene included in the seventh video released by the Center for Medical Progress.

The baby seen in the footage at the 5:56 mark was indeed taken from inside an abortion clinic, according to the owner of the footage. Gregg Cunningham, executive director of The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform, the organization that obtained the footage and provided it to CMP, said “The video clip we provided to CMP depicted an intact delivery abortion. It was filmed at an abortion clinic."

At another point in the video, CMP included a clip of a baby who was stillborn at about the same gestational age, for a means of comparison. Some pro-abortion activists had accused Fiorina of falsely claiming that this baby was aborted.
However, she was actually referring to footage of the baby whose leg was kicking, who was indeed an abortion victim, according to Cunningham.

"It was not a miscarriage. Mothers don’t go to abortion clinics to miscarry," he said.
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Her Super PAC, Carly for America, released a video last week showing the CMP's outtake.

Nonetheless, the issue came roaring to the surface last Saturday, when a group of Planned Parenthood protesters pelted Carly Fiorina with condoms, chanting that she was a liar.
On Sunday, Meet the Press host Chuck Todd asked Fiorina if she were ready to admit she "exaggerated" the scene, which "at best is a reenactment.

Instead, Fiorina tripled down.
“That scene absolutely does exist," she said, referring to the baby's twitching leg.
"And that voice saying what I said they were saying - ‘We're going to keep it alive to harvest its brain’ - exists, as well,” she said.

To date, none of the footage released shows a tech uttering that exact sentence. However, a former StemExpress employee Holly O'Donnell describes seeing a baby's heart beating outside its body sometime before she cut its face open to harvest its brain. It was her first day on the job.

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Fiorina defended herself this week. "Many in the mainstream media have tried their best to pretend that these videos don't exist. They repeated the talking points from Planned Parenthood that told them there was no footage of an aborted baby at all. Now that it's clear the video is of an aborted baby left to die in a metal tray kicking for life, they are calling it...stock footage."

But notice the "morality" (immorality actually) that you are forcing on unborn children who clearly feel excruciating pain upon in utero dismemberment. And notice further the "morality" you are forcing on the rest of us who you require to accept (to stand by and watch, if you will) the butchery of children in utero.

And calling names is no substitute for argument. How 'bout you answer his question instead of trying to evade it with name calling?

Just because you think it's a "bad law" doesn't mean you're right. It just means you want to control others.
It doesn't take a page full of quotes to say nothing.

The doctor added: “This is a cynical and callous exploitation of a patient’s personal tragedy in suffering this miscarriage … and in such a way as to mislead for political gain.”

Another medical expert, who spoke to the Guardian on the condition of anonymity because of a lack of authorization from the expert’s employer, said: “I agree with Dr Gunter. I think she is 100% correct and I have always felt that it was a miscarriage. I cannot say 100%, but I would say it is most likely, and I have reviewed it with [a colleague], who also says it is more consistent with a miscarriage than an abortion.”

"It was not a miscarriage. Mothers don’t go to abortion clinics to miscarry,"

With disclosure we would know for sure.

Did you read the Guardian article by chance? There are a number of clues that this video wasn't really taken an abortion clinic.

Snyper, NeBassman, nice posts. Just remember you're talking to angry old white guys who want to tell women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. The entire PP dustup has been manufactured by the antiabortion crowd. They have to lie about PP or they'd have nothing to say. It's disappointing to see a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination increase her polling numbers by lying. Very strange, but so is the Repulican base. They don't care about facts, or the Constitution, it's just a war on a woman's right to choose.