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Quite a few people have e-mailed or called Eileen asking about the progress of THE BIG BOOK OF GUN GACK: A Hunter's Guide to Handloading Smokeless Rifle Cartridges. The printer notified us that we will have copies later this month.
A place for pre-orders will be up on riflesandrecipes.com as soon as we know the printing/shipping costs to us, but we do know it will be around $30 shipped. It's a big book, about the size of a GUN DIGEST.
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It sounds like it will be softcover?
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Silly question,is it a combination of favorite loads and how to info?
Sounds like a interesting book.
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I will be through Townsend Thursday, shall I stop buy with a Coke and get a copy?
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If he's not paying attention, grab one for me as well.
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I will trade some gunpowder for a couple copies...
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What kind do you need?
I was going to visit some friends this week.
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Idjit,
I was saying I will trade gun powder I have of yours for books...
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yooper35,
Yep, softcover and close to 450 pages.
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elkhunter,
There's a section in the front with chapters on various aspects of handloading, such as sizing cases straight, plus chapters on the details of components.
Then there are chapters on loading different rounds, most on just one cartridge but some including several, such as the one on the three factory .17-caliber centerfires. There's some history on each cartridge, often involving how it's handloaded. The data often contains results from several rifles, not just a pressure barrel. All together right around 60 cartridges are included from the .17 Hornady Hornet to the .416 Rigby.
In the rear there's a list of manufacturers of various products, a couple of appendices including fairly easy formulas for figuring potential velocity and recoil, and an index.
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Can I get just the section on the 270 Win?
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Idjit,
I was saying I will trade gun powder I have of yours for books...
I think you are slipping in the gouging department... Travis
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elkhunter,
There's a section in the front with chapters on various aspects of handloading, such as sizing cases straight, plus chapters on the details of components.
Then there are chapters on loading different rounds, most on just one cartridge but some including several, such as the one on the three factory .17-caliber centerfires. There's some history on each cartridge, often involving how it's handloaded. The data often contains results from several rifles, not just a pressure barrel. All together right around 60 cartridges are included from the .17 Hornady Hornet to the .416 Rigby.
In the rear there's a list of manufacturers of various products, a couple of appendices including fairly easy formulas for figuring potential velocity and recoil, and an index. Thanks Mule Deer. Sounds like I'm gonna have to talk to the wife and get a copy..... Signed..... 
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John:
Definitely put me on the list for a copy.
I bought your and Eileen's last 4 other books which were big winners.
It's for my Grandson.
Thanks for being A great fellow American.\
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Can I get just the section on the 270 Win? the rumor I heard around here is that Ingwe put the kybosh on that chapter so John would have more room for the 7x57 chapter. Geno
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I'm interested in the chapter on the 35 Whelen Ackley.
Seriously, I'm interested in this book. I don't have any magazine subscriptions anymore, and I enjoy reading John's writing.
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John,
I'll be ordering one anyway as there is sure to be chapters on 9.3's, 6.5x55, and .303 (I hope).
Do I hold out hope for a chapter on the ".25 super hornet" (AKA .256 Win Mag)?
Geno
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Take it you'll let us know when pre-orders will be accepted? Wifey gave me permission to get the book. 
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will have to stop by and get a copy on one of my next trips that direction
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Thanks, I've been thinking I need a reloading book to ponder this winter!
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I'm looking forward to the chapter on not measuring stuff that doesn't have to be....
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Looking forward to getting this one, Mule Deer. I haven't bought any new reading material lately.
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I hope it includes data with all the new powders for the famous B-29.
Seriously, I always enjoy John's articles. I look forward to a copy of said manual.
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Sounds like a good book to have on the reloading bench.
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You guys are makin' me jealous. I never learned to read...  I hope there's pitchers in it, John.  I know it will be a big hit. I want to buy one too, but I need to know the postage to Canada. I'm buyin' the old lady a Berlitz readin' course on CD. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.wallpapersonview.com/wallpapers/4/animals_wild_bear_polar_checking_igloo_background_picture-4.jpg)
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OlongJohnson,
Here you are:
Introduction: Two Warnings
1) Working Up a Load in the 21st Century
2) Modern Rifle Powders
3) Rifle Primers
4) Rifling Twist
5) Pre-Testing Big Game Bullets
6) Sizing Cases Straight
7) Meat Hunting Bullets
8) Why Reloading Data Varies
9) Choosing Varmint Bullets
10) The Three Factory .17’s
11) Why the .204 Ruger Works So Well
12) The .22 Hornet and K-Hornet
13) The .221 Fireball in a 700 Classic
14) The “Triple Deuce” (.222 Remington)
15) .223 Remington: The Smallest All-Around Cartridge
16) Newer Powders in the .22-250
17) The Infamous, Accurate .220 Swift
18) A Pair of Fast .22’s (.22/6mm Remington; .223 WSSM)
19) 6mm PPC, the Essence of Accuracy
20) Untangling the 6mm Lee Navy
21) .243 Winchester: Popular Imperfection
22) The Other Two .24’s: 6mm Remington and .240 Weatherby
23) A Pair of .25-20 Winchesters
24) The Accurate .25’s
25) .25-06, the Most Popular “Quarter-Bore”
26) The 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer
27) The 6.5 Creedmoor—Modern Accuracy Distilled
28) The 6.5x55 Swedish-Norwegian Mauser
29) The 6.5/.284 and 6.5-06
30) Reviving the .264 Winchester Magnum
31) 26 Nosler—The Hottest 6.5
32) The 21st-Century .270 Winchester
33) 7x57 and 7mm-08 Remington—A Perfect Pair
34) The Hard-Luck .280 Remington
35).280 Ackley Improved and 7mm SAUM
36) Remington’s Phenomenal 7mm Magnum
37) Handloading the .30-30—If You Must
38) Easy Accuracy From The .308 Winchester
39) The 7.5x55, a “Metric” .30 Caliber
40) The .30-06—Still the Finest All-Around Big Game Cartridge
41) Holland & Holland’s “Super Thirty”
42) Winchester’s Most Popular .300 Magnum
43) Roy’s Famous .300
44) Great Britain’s Great .303
45) Modern Powders in Two Old 8x57’s
46) Kinder, Gentler .338’s
47) .338 Winchester Magnum
48) The .338 Lapua Magnum, King of the Wide-Open Spaces
49) .348 Winchester—Only The Lonely
50) The Original .35 Remington
51) Colonel Whelen’s Fine .35
52) 9.3x62 Mauser, The Working Man’s Medium-Bore
53) The .375 H&H, Still The King
54) Modernizing Two Old .40’s (.450/.400 Nitro-Express 3"; .416 Rigby
55) Epilogue: 9.3 BS
The Rules (4-to-1 etc.)
Recoil Formulas
Manufacturers
Index
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Looks like a good one!
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I will also purchase a copy when available.
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I need to get that one on the Christmas wishlist asap.
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John,
Thanks for the table of contents. Looks like one helluva great book which will become a must-have for all handloaders.
PM sent to buy 4 of them.
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Count me in for one, even with our weak dollar! John is a very knowledgeable and entertaining writer, a unique combination.
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Love that table of contents. Looking forward to reading this around Christmas.
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OlongJohnson,
Here you are:
Introduction: Two Warnings
1) Working Up a Load in the 21st Century
2) Modern Rifle Powders
3) Rifle Primers
4) Rifling Twist
5) Pre-Testing Big Game Bullets
6) Sizing Cases Straight
7) Meat Hunting Bullets
8) Why Reloading Data Varies
9) Choosing Varmint Bullets
10) The Three Factory .17’s
11) Why the .204 Ruger Works So Well
12) The .22 Hornet and K-Hornet
13) The .221 Fireball in a 700 Classic
14) The “Triple Deuce” (.222 Remington)
15) .223 Remington: The Smallest All-Around Cartridge
16) Newer Powders in the .22-250
17) The Infamous, Accurate .220 Swift
18) A Pair of Fast .22’s (.22/6mm Remington; .223 WSSM)
19) 6mm PPC, the Essence of Accuracy
20) Untangling the 6mm Lee Navy
21) .243 Winchester: Popular Imperfection
22) The Other Two .24’s: 6mm Remington and .240 Weatherby
23) A Pair of .25-20 Winchesters
24) The Accurate .25’s
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John:
This is the same old diatribe that I already knew 30 years ago. NOTHING NEW - the rehash of cabbage over and over again.
But nice try. There is always a succer born every minute. t
25) .25-06, the Most Popular “Quarter-Bore”
26) The 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer
27) The 6.5 Creedmoor—Modern Accuracy Distilled
28) The 6.5x55 Swedish-Norwegian Mauser
29) The 6.5/.284 and 6.5-06
30) Reviving the .264 Winchester Magnum
31) 26 Nosler—The Hottest 6.5
32) The 21st-Century .270 Winchester
33) 7x57 and 7mm-08 Remington—A Perfect Pair
34) The Hard-Luck .280 Remington
35).280 Ackley Improved and 7mm SAUM
36) Remington’s Phenomenal 7mm Magnum
37) Handloading the .30-30—If You Must
38) Easy Accuracy From The .308 Winchester
39) The 7.5x55, a “Metric” .30 Caliber
40) The .30-06—Still the Finest All-Around Big Game Cartridge
41) Holland & Holland’s “Super Thirty”
42) Winchester’s Most Popular .300 Magnum
43) Roy’s Famous .300
44) Great Britain’s Great .303
45) Modern Powders in Two Old 8x57’s
46) Kinder, Gentler .338’s
47) .338 Winchester Magnum
48) The .338 Lapua Magnum, King of the Wide-Open Spaces
49) .348 Winchester—Only The Lonely
50) The Original .35 Remington
51) Colonel Whelen’s Fine .35
52) 9.3x62 Mauser, The Working Man’s Medium-Bore
53) The .375 H&H, Still The King
54) Modernizing Two Old .40’s (.450/.400 Nitro-Express 3"; .416 Rigby
55) Epilogue: 9.3 BS
The Rules (4-to-1 etc.)
Recoil Formulas
Manufacturers
Index
I already knew all of this 30 years ago. Same old churning of data to bamboozle the rubes and dupes. What I can't understand is why these gullible kiss up's are so willing to fork over money for data that has been around for decades.
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OlongJohnson,
Here you are:
Introduction: Two Warnings
1) Working Up a Load in the 21st Century
2) Modern Rifle Powders
3) Rifle Primers
4) Rifling Twist
5) Pre-Testing Big Game Bullets
6) Sizing Cases Straight
7) Meat Hunting Bullets
8) Why Reloading Data Varies
9) Choosing Varmint Bullets
10) The Three Factory .17’s
11) Why the .204 Ruger Works So Well
12) The .22 Hornet and K-Hornet
13) The .221 Fireball in a 700 Classic
14) The “Triple Deuce” (.222 Remington)
15) .223 Remington: The Smallest All-Around Cartridge
16) Newer Powders in the .22-250
17) The Infamous, Accurate .220 Swift
18) A Pair of Fast .22’s (.22/6mm Remington; .223 WSSM)
19) 6mm PPC, the Essence of Accuracy
20) Untangling the 6mm Lee Navy
21) .243 Winchester: Popular Imperfection
22) The Other Two .24’s: 6mm Remington and .240 Weatherby
23) A Pair of .25-20 Winchesters
24) The Accurate .25’s
_______________________________________________
John:
This is the same old diatribe that I already knew 30 years ago. NOTHING NEW - the rehash of cabbage over and over again.
But nice try. There is always a succer born every minute. t
25) .25-06, the Most Popular “Quarter-Bore”
26) The 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer
27) The 6.5 Creedmoor—Modern Accuracy Distilled
28) The 6.5x55 Swedish-Norwegian Mauser
29) The 6.5/.284 and 6.5-06
30) Reviving the .264 Winchester Magnum
31) 26 Nosler—The Hottest 6.5
32) The 21st-Century .270 Winchester
33) 7x57 and 7mm-08 Remington—A Perfect Pair
34) The Hard-Luck .280 Remington
35).280 Ackley Improved and 7mm SAUM
36) Remington’s Phenomenal 7mm Magnum
37) Handloading the .30-30—If You Must
38) Easy Accuracy From The .308 Winchester
39) The 7.5x55, a “Metric” .30 Caliber
40) The .30-06—Still the Finest All-Around Big Game Cartridge
41) Holland & Holland’s “Super Thirty”
42) Winchester’s Most Popular .300 Magnum
43) Roy’s Famous .300
44) Great Britain’s Great .303
45) Modern Powders in Two Old 8x57’s
46) Kinder, Gentler .338’s
47) .338 Winchester Magnum
48) The .338 Lapua Magnum, King of the Wide-Open Spaces
49) .348 Winchester—Only The Lonely
50) The Original .35 Remington
51) Colonel Whelen’s Fine .35
52) 9.3x62 Mauser, The Working Man’s Medium-Bore
53) The .375 H&H, Still The King
54) Modernizing Two Old .40’s (.450/.400 Nitro-Express 3"; .416 Rigby
55) Epilogue: 9.3 BS
The Rules (4-to-1 etc.)
Recoil Formulas
Manufacturers
Index
I already knew all of this 30 years ago. Same old churning of data to bamboozle the rubes and dupes. What I can't understand is why these gullible kiss up's are so willing to fork over money for data that has been around for decades. What as ASS!!!!
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Classic. Tibbe saying he knows all this stuff 30 years ago. The 26 Nosler? Factory .17s? New powders?
Can't ignore this bozo fast enough.
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You guys realize he masturbates to your responses, right?
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OlongJohnson,
Here you are:
Introduction: Two Warnings
1) Working Up a Load in the 21st Century
2) Modern Rifle Powders
3) Rifle Primers
4) Rifling Twist
5) Pre-Testing Big Game Bullets
6) Sizing Cases Straight
7) Meat Hunting Bullets
8) Why Reloading Data Varies
9) Choosing Varmint Bullets
10) The Three Factory .17’s
11) Why the .204 Ruger Works So Well
12) The .22 Hornet and K-Hornet
13) The .221 Fireball in a 700 Classic
14) The “Triple Deuce” (.222 Remington)
15) .223 Remington: The Smallest All-Around Cartridge
16) Newer Powders in the .22-250
17) The Infamous, Accurate .220 Swift
18) A Pair of Fast .22’s (.22/6mm Remington; .223 WSSM)
19) 6mm PPC, the Essence of Accuracy
20) Untangling the 6mm Lee Navy
21) .243 Winchester: Popular Imperfection
22) The Other Two .24’s: 6mm Remington and .240 Weatherby
23) A Pair of .25-20 Winchesters
24) The Accurate .25’s
_______________________________________________
John:
This is the same old diatribe that I already knew 30 years ago. NOTHING NEW - the rehash of cabbage over and over again.
But nice try. There is always a succer born every minute. t
25) .25-06, the Most Popular “Quarter-Bore”
26) The 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer
27) The 6.5 Creedmoor—Modern Accuracy Distilled
28) The 6.5x55 Swedish-Norwegian Mauser
29) The 6.5/.284 and 6.5-06
30) Reviving the .264 Winchester Magnum
31) 26 Nosler—The Hottest 6.5
32) The 21st-Century .270 Winchester
33) 7x57 and 7mm-08 Remington—A Perfect Pair
34) The Hard-Luck .280 Remington
35).280 Ackley Improved and 7mm SAUM
36) Remington’s Phenomenal 7mm Magnum
37) Handloading the .30-30—If You Must
38) Easy Accuracy From The .308 Winchester
39) The 7.5x55, a “Metric” .30 Caliber
40) The .30-06—Still the Finest All-Around Big Game Cartridge
41) Holland & Holland’s “Super Thirty”
42) Winchester’s Most Popular .300 Magnum
43) Roy’s Famous .300
44) Great Britain’s Great .303
45) Modern Powders in Two Old 8x57’s
46) Kinder, Gentler .338’s
47) .338 Winchester Magnum
48) The .338 Lapua Magnum, King of the Wide-Open Spaces
49) .348 Winchester—Only The Lonely
50) The Original .35 Remington
51) Colonel Whelen’s Fine .35
52) 9.3x62 Mauser, The Working Man’s Medium-Bore
53) The .375 H&H, Still The King
54) Modernizing Two Old .40’s (.450/.400 Nitro-Express 3"; .416 Rigby
55) Epilogue: 9.3 BS
The Rules (4-to-1 etc.)
Recoil Formulas
Manufacturers
Index
I already knew all of this 30 years ago. Same old churning of data to bamboozle the rubes and dupes. What I can't understand is why these gullible kiss up's are so willing to fork over money for data that has been around for decades. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg546/elkhunterinnm/134631046799427.jpg) Sorry Mule Deer,but just had to post this reply to wee wet willie.
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I just had lunch and am now revisiting it again thanks to your lovely mental image. You guys realize he masturbates to your responses, right?
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Now back to the regularly scheduled programming...I'd be very interested in a copy as well.
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In another conversation you mentioned "high math" and I asked how high. You said as high as I wanted to go. In response I asked a question which, in the context of that conversation, a person possessed of moderately advanced mathematical knowledge/training could easily answer immediately and in a casual fashion.
Your answer was not quickly forthcoming, was not correct, and in fact another poster noted your answer was pretty much what the first Google search result would reveal.
Instead of saying "I don't know" you took the bait and scrambled to Google. That put a ding on your credibility rating.
To bloviate is your modus operandi and you've been called on it numerous times. Your personal level of butthurt is running high. Yet you can't tear yourself away from all the mean old rubes around here.
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Damn, nothing on the .300 Rook? bummer Oh well, I'll probably buy it, anyway 
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So, from this: John:
Definitely put me on the list for a copy.
I bought your and Eileen's last 4 other books which were big winners.
It's for my Grandson.
Thanks for being A great fellow American.\
Bill To this:
I already knew all of this 30 years ago. Same old churning of data to bamboozle the rubes and dupes.
What I can't understand is why these gullible kiss up's are so willing to fork over money for data that has been around for decades.
Something definitely not right with this WET character - unfugging believable... Oh, and John - sounds like a great book and I'll definitely be ordering a copy...
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Put me on the list for one please.
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OlongJohnson,
Here you are:
Introduction: Two Warnings
1) Working Up a Load in the 21st Century
2) Modern Rifle Powders
3) Rifle Primers
4) Rifling Twist
5) Pre-Testing Big Game Bullets
6) Sizing Cases Straight
7) Meat Hunting Bullets
8) Why Reloading Data Varies
9) Choosing Varmint Bullets
10) The Three Factory .17’s
11) Why the .204 Ruger Works So Well
12) The .22 Hornet and K-Hornet
13) The .221 Fireball in a 700 Classic
14) The “Triple Deuce” (.222 Remington)
15) .223 Remington: The Smallest All-Around Cartridge
16) Newer Powders in the .22-250
17) The Infamous, Accurate .220 Swift
18) A Pair of Fast .22’s (.22/6mm Remington; .223 WSSM)
19) 6mm PPC, the Essence of Accuracy
20) Untangling the 6mm Lee Navy
21) .243 Winchester: Popular Imperfection
22) The Other Two .24’s: 6mm Remington and .240 Weatherby
23) A Pair of .25-20 Winchesters
24) The Accurate .25’s
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John:
This is the same old diatribe that I already knew 30 years ago. NOTHING NEW - the rehash of cabbage over and over again.
But nice try. There is always a succer born every minute. t
25) .25-06, the Most Popular “Quarter-Bore”
26) The 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer
27) The 6.5 Creedmoor—Modern Accuracy Distilled
28) The 6.5x55 Swedish-Norwegian Mauser
29) The 6.5/.284 and 6.5-06
30) Reviving the .264 Winchester Magnum
31) 26 Nosler—The Hottest 6.5
32) The 21st-Century .270 Winchester
33) 7x57 and 7mm-08 Remington—A Perfect Pair
34) The Hard-Luck .280 Remington
35).280 Ackley Improved and 7mm SAUM
36) Remington’s Phenomenal 7mm Magnum
37) Handloading the .30-30—If You Must
38) Easy Accuracy From The .308 Winchester
39) The 7.5x55, a “Metric” .30 Caliber
40) The .30-06—Still the Finest All-Around Big Game Cartridge
41) Holland & Holland’s “Super Thirty”
42) Winchester’s Most Popular .300 Magnum
43) Roy’s Famous .300
44) Great Britain’s Great .303
45) Modern Powders in Two Old 8x57’s
46) Kinder, Gentler .338’s
47) .338 Winchester Magnum
48) The .338 Lapua Magnum, King of the Wide-Open Spaces
49) .348 Winchester—Only The Lonely
50) The Original .35 Remington
51) Colonel Whelen’s Fine .35
52) 9.3x62 Mauser, The Working Man’s Medium-Bore
53) The .375 H&H, Still The King
54) Modernizing Two Old .40’s (.450/.400 Nitro-Express 3"; .416 Rigby
55) Epilogue: 9.3 BS
The Rules (4-to-1 etc.)
Recoil Formulas
Manufacturers
Index
I already knew all of this 30 years ago. Same old churning of data to bamboozle the rubes and dupes. What I can't understand is why these gullible kiss up's are so willing to fork over money for data that has been around for decades. Doing a quick search, I found your photo on the web. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj550/osusig2/asshat_zpsfaznsv08.jpg) Where's your book?
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OlongJohnson,
Here you are:
Introduction: Two Warnings
1) Working Up a Load in the 21st Century
2) Modern Rifle Powders
3) Rifle Primers
4) Rifling Twist
5) Pre-Testing Big Game Bullets
6) Sizing Cases Straight
7) Meat Hunting Bullets
8) Why Reloading Data Varies
9) Choosing Varmint Bullets
10) The Three Factory .17’s
11) Why the .204 Ruger Works So Well
12) The .22 Hornet and K-Hornet
13) The .221 Fireball in a 700 Classic
14) The “Triple Deuce” (.222 Remington)
15) .223 Remington: The Smallest All-Around Cartridge
16) Newer Powders in the .22-250
17) The Infamous, Accurate .220 Swift
18) A Pair of Fast .22’s (.22/6mm Remington; .223 WSSM)
19) 6mm PPC, the Essence of Accuracy
20) Untangling the 6mm Lee Navy
21) .243 Winchester: Popular Imperfection
22) The Other Two .24’s: 6mm Remington and .240 Weatherby
23) A Pair of .25-20 Winchesters
24) The Accurate .25’s
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John:
This is the same old diatribe that I already knew 30 years ago. NOTHING NEW - the rehash of cabbage over and over again.
But nice try. There is always a succer born every minute. t
25) .25-06, the Most Popular “Quarter-Bore”
26) The 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer
27) The 6.5 Creedmoor—Modern Accuracy Distilled
28) The 6.5x55 Swedish-Norwegian Mauser
29) The 6.5/.284 and 6.5-06
30) Reviving the .264 Winchester Magnum
31) 26 Nosler—The Hottest 6.5
32) The 21st-Century .270 Winchester
33) 7x57 and 7mm-08 Remington—A Perfect Pair
34) The Hard-Luck .280 Remington
35).280 Ackley Improved and 7mm SAUM
36) Remington’s Phenomenal 7mm Magnum
37) Handloading the .30-30—If You Must
38) Easy Accuracy From The .308 Winchester
39) The 7.5x55, a “Metric” .30 Caliber
40) The .30-06—Still the Finest All-Around Big Game Cartridge
41) Holland & Holland’s “Super Thirty”
42) Winchester’s Most Popular .300 Magnum
43) Roy’s Famous .300
44) Great Britain’s Great .303
45) Modern Powders in Two Old 8x57’s
46) Kinder, Gentler .338’s
47) .338 Winchester Magnum
48) The .338 Lapua Magnum, King of the Wide-Open Spaces
49) .348 Winchester—Only The Lonely
50) The Original .35 Remington
51) Colonel Whelen’s Fine .35
52) 9.3x62 Mauser, The Working Man’s Medium-Bore
53) The .375 H&H, Still The King
54) Modernizing Two Old .40’s (.450/.400 Nitro-Express 3"; .416 Rigby
55) Epilogue: 9.3 BS
The Rules (4-to-1 etc.)
Recoil Formulas
Manufacturers
Index
I already knew all of this 30 years ago. Same old churning of data to bamboozle the rubes and dupes. What I can't understand is why these gullible kiss up's are so willing to fork over money for data that has been around for decades. William, William, William, as nice a person as you probably are, you should stop soon. China is not that far away now, you are getting pretty deep. I do not consider myself a rube or a dupe. For you to insult Mr Barsness is nearly the ultimate in.... s--theadedeness. Do you read anything other than what you can find on the internet, in fora similar to this one? Do you read gun and reloading magazines? Do you somehow not realize that our fellow campfire attendee is considered by many in the industry, and by little dupes and rubes like his thousands of knowledgeable readers, to be an excellent example of a scribe recording for the present, and transmitting to future, generations the art and science of things ballistic? (OK all you gunwriter types, kick my a-- for such a run on sentence. I couldn't stop, the words and ideas were on a roll  ) In my previous responses to your posts, I have attempted to be polite, thinking perhaps you are old and of diminished mental capacity while still trying to remain relavent to the shooting community. Guess what, I'm still trying to remain polite. I'll politely inform you that your posts are "ridiculous". I'll save you the trouble of looking that one up: adj. Deserving or inspiring ridicule; absurd, preposterous, or silly. See Synonyms at foolish
On another topic you seemed to think I was one of the "good guys". You can feel free to change your mind now! Immediately DO NOT CALL ME GOOD GUY STOP DO NOT POST AND CALL ME GOOD GUY Insult me.. fine Insult my well repsected campfire friend, sorry dude, you're on the s--t list. Geno PS mathman I think I know that guy who "googled" Mr. Tibbe's "googling". You were referring to this perhaps: Originally Posted By Valsdad Not being really knowledgeable about "High Math", I kinda figured that's what you were looking for. I found the sociology related "integration" info listed at the top of a websearch. Didn't figure it had much to do with math. G I doubt you were the only one. mathman PPS Wiiliam, as they say up in those Northern tier states.. You Betcha, I'm a real f'n dysfunctional squirrel. (not a wannabe)
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Hesus Christo:
I put TWO posts here;
Here's #1.
John:
Definitely put me on the list for a copy.
I bought your and Eileen's last 4 other books which were big winners.
It's for my Grandson.
Thanks for being A great fellow American.\
Bill
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What is the matter with YOU PEOPLE?
Predictably you migrated to the WRONG one AS USUAL.
No surprise here. Same old, same old.
If it isn't Teeny Bopper Kiddie Porn you just don't seem to get it.
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Bill, have you ever stopped to consider that the problem is you?
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John, I might have missed it...are you accepting pre-orders?
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I already knew all of this 30 years ago. Same old churning of data to bamboozle the rubes and dupes.
What I can't understand is why these gullible kiss up's are so willing to fork over money for data that has been around for decades.
Are you going to tell us this isn't your second post?
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In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Thanks for the notice JB. I look forward to the read.
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Damn, nothing on the .300 Rook? bummer Oh well, I'll probably buy it, anyway Light on .22 Savage Hi-Power too but he makes it up for the Super-.30 so I'm in!
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nyrifleman,
No, we're not accepting pre-orders quite yet, but will be soon. Will post it here then, but in the meantime will keep a list from this thread of those who said they wanted to order one.
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Thanks John. Kindly place me in the queue.
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Put me down for one as well, please.
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Thanks John, looks like an interesting read and nice reference for the bench. Put me on the list also, please.
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I will be ordering when it is available as well. Even if the .260 Rem and the B-29 were left out .
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Anybody who seriously concerns themselves with the adequacy of a Big 7mm for anything we hunt here short of brown bear, is a dufus. They are mostly making shidt up. Crunch! Nite-nite!
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John,
I'm interested in a copy as well.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Put me down for two please.
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John, put goodshot ( Mike)down as well. I think I have just about all of em.
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John,
I changed my mind, I'll need you to put me down for two please. My new to reloading brother will get one for Christmas.
Thanks,
Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
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In it is death and all you seek
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...will keep a list from this thread of those who said they wanted to order one. Making a list and checking it twice.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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I'll take a copy as well, JB. Thanks - it's about time that you wrote this book!
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Well, dang. I can't find room to put half the books I already have, much less find room for another.
Put med down for one.
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Add my name to the list. I can always use more reading matter on reloading. Looking forward to receiving my copy.
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Valsdad: Hi Amigo: As usual your posts are down to earth common sense. Also as usual my comments perceived EXLUDE the vast majority of participants and apply ONLY to a tiny handful. Sorry but you and most others didn't make the grade on the squirrel list. I actually agree with you summation of John's attributes. I'll be buying my 5th fifth book from them. But not for me, for my Grandson. Incidentally it looks like I will have to have a little talk with John about "largess" since I single handedly increased his book sales 400% in less than 24 hours !!! Haven't youse Guys "figgered" out that I am just "messin" around most of the time ?
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Please add me to the list for one book.
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Mulie, I want one! However, I need the addendum on the .250 Savage. I might be the only one that shoots it, but you covered my other favorites - 6.5 x 55, 9.3 x 62, and .450/.400. That list makes me conclude you have exquisite taste in cartridges.
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Please put me down for 2! Looking forward to it.
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ringworm,
Unfortunately it's not going to be available as an e-book. We actually don't get many requests for any of our publications as e-books, probably because hunters and shooters tend to be a little older than average Americans, and also more traditional.
But the big reason is data is a major leaguge PITA to convert to e-book format. Simple text works fine, but when lots of numbers are involved, especially in a particular layout, they tends to get severely scrambled. Since most of our books contain some data (including Eileen's cookbooks) we're bypassing the entire headache!
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hatari,
Oh, the .250 Savage gets plenty of attention, in a long chapter called "The Accurate .25's" that includes the .250 and the two .257's, Roberts and Weatherby. The .25-20 and .25-06 got their own chapters because the .25-20's so different from the "modern" .25's, and the .25-06 because it's by far the most popular .25.
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My man! Looking forward to it.
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Looks like a good one!
Travis This means I want to buy one if shrapnel can't steal one. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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It is no surprise, perhaps, that WET shares his name with a recent president of some disdain, while our respected gunwriter-friend has a lot in common in stalwart repute with Jack O'C. And, of course, "Jack" is a name sometimes substituted for the perfectly good name John.
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You had me at : 14) The “Triple Deuce” (.222 Remington)
Incoming order.
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Bill, have you ever stopped to consider that the problem is you? _______________________________________________________________ Yes, of course I am absolutely the problem. That's because I am the inveterate moral advocate of truth, honesty and propriety for a better people and a better America. Bill.
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Bill, have you ever stopped to consider that the problem is you? _______________________________________________________________ Yes, of course I am absolutely the problem. That's because I am the inveterate moral advocate of truth, honesty and propriety for a better people and a better America. Bill. And where else have we heard these words but from your namesake:
That's because I am the inveterate moral advocate of truth, honesty and propriety for a better people and a better America.
Thinking that ain't sugar you're putting on your Froot Loops feller!
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JB,
As a new reloader I think this may be a must read for me since all of my callibers are in it.
Please put me down for a copy.
Tom
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Haven't youse Guys "figgered" out that I am just "messin" around most of the time ?
No, we have you figured out. You're just a prick.
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I would like to buy 2 of them, one for me and the other for a gift. thanks
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This is one book I'm looking forward to.
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... since all of my calipers are in it...
Tom Inside or outside?
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I'm in for 4. One for me and the rest are for hunting buddies who will get them as Christmas gifts.
Giving the book as a gift will provide the recipients with one of the best Christmas gifts of their life!
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Count me in for a copy, John.
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I would also like to purchase a copy.
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Would like to purchase at least 2.
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... since all of my calipers are in it...
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John, I would like to go on the list for two as well.
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JB better get the 2nd printing ordered
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I'm interested in a copy as well.
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Thanks, everybody, will let you know as soon as we get a couple more details!
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I'm in for 4. One for me and the rest are for hunting buddies who will get them as Christmas gifts.
Giving the book as a gift will provide the recipients with one of the best Christmas gifts of their life!
Remove my request then.
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I am in for a copy, thanks
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put me down for one--thanks
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JB, I'll take one looks like some good reading. Has to be a good read if there is a chapter on the 35 Remington!
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JB better get the 2nd printing ordered I'm hoping Turp takes notice and begins work on Volume 3.....
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I'll buy one, John. Be sure and post on the "other" forum just above this one when they are ready.
Lots of us higher class folks don't come down here much.
Too many meanies hang out here and they hurt our feelers.
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John,
Add me to the list in for one!
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You can count me in as well.
Thanks
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nyrifleman,
No, we're not accepting pre-orders quite yet, but will be soon. Will post it here then, but in the meantime will keep a list from this thread of those who said they wanted to order one. I'm confused. Has this thread turned into a pre-order request list?
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“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
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Like so many threads around here, it took on a life all its own. I'm just happy to see the book is imminent for release, and, as soon as JB indicates it's open for bidness, I'll be placing my order. 
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In that case john, put me down for one. --- Mel
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I'll take a copy. Post a link to purchase when it is ready.
It's about like this:
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Yes, of course I am absolutely the problem.
Bill. Damn skippy.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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Thanks, everybody, will let you know as soon as we get a couple more details! JB- what will the method be? Will you start a new post titled "server beefed up" or similar?
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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Please put me on the list for a copy.
Thanks,
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If its a list, then put me down for one also.
Thanks, Jeff
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JB
Please put me on the list for one
Thanks
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Please put me on the list for one.
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Please include one for me.
Thanks.
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Put me down for one please
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I'd like one also.
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Me too.
I've been looking for 222 Magnum data collected AD.... (grins)
Seriously, mark me down for one.
Missed my free copy at the PD Invitational, so I'll pay.
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If I can't get a "1st printing" copy, put me down for a 2nd printing copy.
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I'd like one also. Thanks.
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kk alaska
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John,does the $32.50 include shipping and handling?
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Yes. All the prices on our website include both--and all books are autographed. If you want some special inscription, say for a friend you want to tweak, we include that too.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
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I do want something "different" for the autograph.
We will call tomorrow.
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Yes. All the prices on our website include both--and all books are autographed. If you want some special inscription, say for a friend you want to tweak, we include that too. Okay, SOLD, add me to the list for one copy. Please include a snappy inscription - something like: "For MtnBoomer, He needs all the help he can get, and he needs it again and again...."
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Folks,you can go to his website ( http://www.riflesandrecipes.com) and pre-order the book.
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Thanks elkhtrnm, ordered.
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Yep, the website just started listing it yesterday.
Those who don't like using a credit card on the Internet can order by mail: Deep Creek Press, PO Box 579, Townsend, MT 59644-0579. As noted earlier the price of $32.50 includes shipped (media mail) and handling, and all copies are autographed. If you want something special with the autograph, just include a note in the envelope.
The books will be here sometime during the last week of October, and will be mailed then.
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You guys realize he masturbates to your responses, right?
Travis Thanks, oh ever so much, for putting that mental image in my head!
What fresh Hell is this?
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ehnm, a fine morning to you, thanks for the link and the reminder. Geno PS, I'm keeping an eye out on the rest of the squirrels in case dissention in the ranks leads to a revolt. I'll "see" you on the other forum for an update.
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I'm disappointed that there's no chapter on the 29 BS but I'll take one too.
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Thanks. I ordered a copy enroute to this years elk hunt!
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Thanks John,
Ordered this evening.
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Hello John:
While I certainly would have enjoyed reading a chapter on the old 300 H&H, I know it's considered antiquated by most younger shooters, and is assuredly over shadowed by the many newer .300 hot rods.
But, I know I would enjoy sitting by the fireplace on a cold winter day reading this book, and likely learn something new on the other calibers I enjoy.
So, if you will, put me down for a copy as well.
Respects,
Richard
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Tripleshock will take a autographed one whwn available.
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Buckskin,
Chapter 41 is all about the .300 H&H, so you should be OK!
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Works for me!
Really looking forward to this read.
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I just tried to send a "form PM" to everybody who said they'd like to get the book, but if I missed you here it is: Pre-orders can be made by credit-card on our website, www.riflesandrecipes.com.Media mail shipping is included in the $32.50 price, and we autograph all our books. If you want an individualized autograph, either for yourself or somebody else, let us know in the space provided on the site. If you have problems with the website (they occur rarely, but do happen) and have a PayPal account, you can also send $32.50 to eileen  riflesandrecipes.com, along with what it’s for and your mailing address. You can also send a check or money order for $32.50 to Deep Creek Press, PO Box 579, Townsend, MT 59644-0579, with a note including your mailing address, what you’re ordering, and any special autograph requests. If you prefer ordering by phone call Eileen at 406-521-0273. If you live outside the U.S. extra shipping will be necessary. If in Canada, our bank charges a LOT to handle checks or money orders, even if in American dollars, so it’s easiest to use a credit card, but we also accept Canadian cash, as we visit your fine country often. It’s probably easiest to phone 406-521-0273, or e-mail eileen riflesandrecipes.com. The books will be shipped as soon as the first printing arrives later in the month. Thanks!
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Just ordered it.
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I definitely want one. John is the Jack O Conner, John Wayne of this century to riflemen, shooters, and hunters.He will be remembered for all he has contributed to sportsmen. Please show him the respect that he has earned and deserves Thank You, John.
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I had some issues with the website,so I ordered mine through PayPal.I always have enjoyed reading John's books and I think this will be one of his best.
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As Bob Hagel would say"You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong."Good words of wisdom...............
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sweetsues,
Thanks very much for the kind words!
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baldhunter,
Most people aren't having problems ordering from the website, but somebody reported that when they ordered as a "guest," rather than registering, it went right through.
Sorry for the problems, but glad ordering through PP worked. And if anybody still has problems, phoning always works.
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I just ordered my copy on the website with no problem. I predict that this book will become a classic. I already have a special place on my bookshelf reserved for it. Thank you, John, for bringing this book to fruition.
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Just ordered mine hassle-free via PayPal.
I was hoarding when hoarding wasn't cool.
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I just successfully ordered from your site after logging in (no "guest" checkout), and all went fine. The site does seem to be running a little slow - must be lots of traffic right now!
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I ordered from the website with no problems. Looking forward to the book!
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I ordered from the web site yesterday
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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It's starting to look like the occasional problem may be related to the amount of traffic we've been getting on the website, which is probably heavier than we've ever had before. Here's what happened with somebody who was having problems:
"When it asks you to 'confirm order' it returned an error message that PayPal would not process the order. These were three banners on top of each other on the same order review page. I said 'what the heck' and clicked the confirm button again to see what would happen and it went through."
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Didn't want to reply to the group PM, but I ordered yesterday and all indications are a go.
Thanks for the PM
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I do not handle websites well - too old and technologically challenged. I called Eileen and not only got my order done easily, but got to converse with a nice lady.
Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.
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MD - if you would - please post a list of your currently available books.
I need to start ordering!
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon.
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Sure--
LIFE OF THE HUNT and BORN TO HUNT are both collections of big game hunting stories in various places, with a little other stuff thrown in.
MODERN HUNTING OPTICS is a look at optics today, including how they work, both optically and mechanically, and some info on how to use them.
RIFLE TROUBLE-SHOOTING AND HANDLOADING is an overall look at getting rifles to function correctly and shoot well.
OBSESSIONS OF A RIFLE LOONY is a mixture of opinion and a look at various types of rifles, plus some favorite hunting cartridges.
SHOTGUNS FOR WINGSHOOTING is a guide to shotguns and ammo for various kinds of upland birds and waterfowl, with over 100 color photos of guns and hunting.
HUNTING THE GREAT PLAINS is a guide to hunting the birds and big game of the plains, with plenty of hunting stories mixed in.
More details are available on riflesandrecipes.com, along with some other stuff, including Eileen's cookbooks.
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My wife interjected and is getting it for me for Christmas...will you tell me if that didn't happen, LOL!
Who am I to complain...now my play money will got elsewhere!
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Good deal!
I forgot to mention one other book, RIFLE LOONY NEWS: THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, co-authored with my wife Eileen Clarke.
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"RIFLE LOONEY NEWS: THE FIRST FIVE YEARS" is going to be my next purchase,after deer season is over......you know priorities.
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While we're patiently waiting....  I'm not a shotgunner but read, enjoyed and learned a bunch with SHOTGUNS FOR WINGSHOOTING. It was especially enlightening on load and choke selection that corrected some misperceptions from my rifle-centric upbringing. Well done. Recommend to all.
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Glad you like SHOTGUNS FOR WINGSHOOTING!
Must confess, however, that was one of the books Eileen and I wrote for various publishing companies that pushed us into self-publishing. When the publisher originally approached me, their proposal was for a very "affordable" book, under $20 cover price, which meant that with the standard royalty agreement I'd get maybe $1.50 for each book sold, and most gun books don't sell more than a few thousand copies these days. It just wasn't worth my time to write it, and I told them so.
So they came back with a proposal to do a hardcover with color photos. The cover price would be enough higher than the first book to up the royalty considerably. So I said OK, and my contract was to deliver the manuscript and photos a year later.
They contacted me a month later and said if I could get it done in three months, a major bookstore chain would buy a bunch of copies and display them prominently. So I said OK, and got it done.
Well, they liked my photos so much they then decided to turn it into a coffee-table style book, printed on high-grade shiny paper with over 100 photos. Trouble was, this meant the cover price was $49.95. Now, even general book buyers go into sticker shock on books priced much over $30, and not many hunters are willing to pay 50 bucks for a book just because of pretty pictures. I told them this was a mistake, but they considered themselves publishing geniuses and said that's what they were gonna do.
In the meantime, the accelerated publishing schedule made them "forget" to send me page proofs before publication, to correct any set-up errors. This procedure is in every publishing contract. There were some errors, including a few from the guy who edited the manuscript.
Turned out I was right and the book didn't sell well. I never saw any royalties because my advance was never amortized--and the advance was as much as I make writing 2-3 magazine articles.
Other than the advance, the only money I made on the book was selling it on our website. But even the reduced price we could buy it for (about what bookstores pay) meant we had to sell it for $35 to make any money, but within a year we were seeing it for sale in various places for $25. We asked the publishing company about this, and they said they'd "remaindered" the book, basically selling it for the printing cost to book retailers. Also in my contract was a clause to be informed of a decision to remainder, giving me first option on buying books, but again they somehow "forgot" to tell me. Did manage to buy a few hundred at that point, which are what we're selling on our website for $26, which includes shipping.
A few months later the same publisher approached me about doing a hunting rifle book along the same lines. This meant THEY made money on my shotgun book, probably from the big bookstore deal. I told them I'd need a lot more money up front, but their best offer was way below what I needed.
That, however, was far from the worst of our experiences with traditional publishers. Had to take another one to court because he was cooking the account books to totally screw me out of royalties for a book that sold very well.
All of which is why we now have total control of our book publishing, including the account books!
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Good on you for going it on your own.
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That sucks John! I can completely see why you went to self publishing. I always figured it was simply due to getting a more fair cut of the profits, but if publishing houses were outright screwing you...
Glad it has worked out in the long run though.
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Actually did OK on 3-4 books we did with traditional, but with most we would have been better off publishing ourselves. The Internet and digital printing made that far more practical than ever before, the reason so many writers are self-publishing these days.
There've always been problems in any business that supposedly pays royalties to authors, musicians, artists and even inventors. A lot of people are greedy, and also think they're smarter about making money than writers, musicians, artists and inventors. In some ways they're right, but the combination of greed and a superior attitude sometimes leads to outright theft!
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JB,
It is disturbing to hear how you were treated by that publisher. It makes me mad. If only everyone would just treat others the way they would like to be treated the world would be a much better place.
I am not much of a shotgunner, but I just went to the websight and ordered the book as a show of support for you and Eileen. It gave me an excuse to order the Loony Hat that I forgot to add on to my order for the Gun Gack book.
I have most of your books and have enjoyed every one of them. I am looking forward to some great reading this winter.
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John,are the books going to be in next week?
Yes,I'm impatient.
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They are supposed to show up today or tomorrow.
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John: Put me down as first in line. Confirmed order, one book post haste. I pass these on to my Grandson regularly. Return details and I will shoot to you the payment. You should already have my previous mailing address on record wetibbe msn.com
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Bill: John has a website you can visit to order a book. It's very easy. Google search "rifles and recipes."
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I want to be like William E Tibbe.......several dozen posters spoke up wanting his book, many went ahead and ordered it, yet William E Tibbe comes along a hundred posts later and is first in line. That man demands respect I'd say.
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Yeah...not to mention that he threw a fit when he found out what was going to be in the book since he "knew it all 30yrs ago." But dammit...he's gonna be first in line even though dozens of us have already paid for our copy. I already knew all of this 30 years ago. Same old churning of data to bamboozle the rubes and dupes. What I can't understand is why these gullible kiss up's are so willing to fork over money for data that has been around for decades.
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Sorry I didn't want to jump the line.
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You are spot on that I quickens my heart.
Praise the lord for more of my clandestine lurkers.
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Yeah...not to mention that he threw a fit when he found out what was going to be in the book since he "knew it all 30yrs ago." But dammit...he's gonna be first in line even though dozens of us have already paid for our copy. I already knew all of this 30 years ago. Same old churning of data to bamboozle the rubes and dupes. What I can't understand is why these gullible kiss up's are so willing to fork over money for data that has been around for decades. Damned facts anyway. How dare you cite what the fraud actually said?
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They are supposed to show up today or tomorrow. GREAT! Thanks for the update John.
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John:
Not withstanding the interference here just ship the book as convenient and possible. I am infinitely patient.
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Yeah...not to mention that he threw a fit when he found out what was going to be in the book since he "knew it all 30yrs ago." But dammit...he's gonna be first in line even though dozens of us have already paid for our copy. I already knew all of this 30 years ago. Same old churning of data to bamboozle the rubes and dupes. What I can't understand is why these gullible kiss up's are so willing to fork over money for data that has been around for decades. My thoughts exactly when I read WET's post, though refrained from quoting his above jiberish due to there no longer being any doubt that there's some type of mental issue at play here...
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I want to be like William E Tibbe.......several dozen posters spoke up wanting his book, many went ahead and ordered it, yet William E Tibbe comes along a hundred posts later and is first in line. That man demands respect I'd say. After the other 127, WETwipe is first.
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John:
Not withstanding the interference here just ship the book as convenient and possible. I am infinitely patient.
Bill It helps if you actually ORDER the book; including paying for it. Works freakin' wonders.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Do you clowns actually have both oars in the water ?
Does it take a space scientist to explain that I have been at this for 70 years ?
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Do you clowns actually have both oars in the water ?
Does it take a space scientist to explain that I have been at this for 70 years ?
Bill, You started reloading at 13, still can't figure out how to adjust a set of dies, maligned JB publicly before jumping like a school girl at the new book, and still can't figure out how to actually order the book in the first place? The only thing you've been at for 70 years is being a fraud in NY State, and that you're continuing for posterity it seems.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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What,cutting to the front of the line? Apologies to John for hi-jacking his thread.
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Well, back on topic. The book should arrive just in time to provide some good reading whilst I'm recovering from wrist surgery. 8 weeks in a cast.
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Well, back on topic. The book should arrive just in time to provide some good reading whilst I'm recovering from wrist surgery. 8 weeks in a cast. Ouch. That sucks.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Yup, it'll be the longest I've gone without sex in quite some time...
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LMFAO!
Call deflave; he'll send some of 'Gruff's sheep.
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No way, I've seen his sheep and they are butt ugly.
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Maybe ask 'flave to send one of his instead. You know he beau-guards all the best ones for himself.
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Ordered mine today. Looking forward to a great read.....
And MD, don't know if I was included on the Group PM, but to let you know I never received it.
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