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This article and what he apparently says in his book makes me much more comfortable with him. He's up front and honest about previously backing more gun control which at least one other leading candidate is lying about. And it appears he actually went back and looked into what it was actually about when it was passed - which is important to me at least.

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As Democrats renew a push for gun control after the recent school shooting in Oregon, Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson argues in his new book that an armed citizenry is needed to protect the people against “tyrants” and “radicals.”

“Only law-abiding citizens are affected by legislation imposing gun control,” Carson writes in the book. “The criminals don’t care what the law says, which is why they are criminals. Confiscating the guns of American citizens would violate the Constitution as well as rendering the citizenry vulnerable to criminals and tyrants.”

Carson’s new book, “A More Perfect Union: What We The People Can Do To Reclaim Our Constitutional Liberties,” is set for release Tuesday.

In the book, the former neurosurgeon argues that firearms should be not restricted because “our founders recognized that ‘we the People’ could represent a significant fighting force if necessary to repel an invasion by foreign forces. They also knew that an armed population would discourage government overreach.”

“The founders feared an overbearing central government might attempt to dominate the people and severely curtail their rights,” Carson writes. “This, in fact, is the primary reason that the Second Amendment was included in the Bill of Rights.” (RELATED: Clinton Threatens Unilateral Gun Control)

Carson acknowledges that many people might find it “ludicrous to imagine our federal government trying to seize unconstitutional power and dominate the people.” But citing James Madison, Carson said the founder “could foresee a day in America when radicals might assume power and try to impose upon America a different system of government.”

“His hope was that the establishment of such a different way of life would be difficult in America, because American citizens, having the right to keep and bear arms, would rebel,” Carson writes.

The Republican presidential candidate also references Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany, writing how “German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler’s regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior.”

Carson, who previously supported tougher gun control measures, said his views changed after studying the Constitution.

“Some will say that they see no problem with small handguns and hunting rifles, perhaps even shotguns,” he writes. “They are opposed to more powerful weaponry such as assault rifles and armor-penetrating ammunition. I too was a member of that camp until I fully recognized the intent of the Second Amendment, which is to protect the freedom of the people from an overly aggressive government.”

Carson writes that Americans “would be at a great disadvantage if they were attacked by an overly aggressive government and all they had to defend themselves with were minor firearms.”

The former neurosurgeon offers one suggestion for cutting down on gun deaths in the United States.

“Rather than trying to control or confiscate guns, it might be smarter to offer free, public gun-safety courses,” he says. “In countries like Switzerland, every man within a certain age range is required to possess a gun and to know how to use it, and Switzerland had one of the lowest gun homicide rates in the world.”


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Or, he's seeing the wind direction and sailing with the breeze...

(playing devil's advocate here)..


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I like Carson.




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by Redneck
Or, he's seeing the wind direction and sailing with the breeze...

(playing devil's advocate here)..

I think he'd be trying to hide his previous stance more if he was just trying to garner votes - but it is a valid concern.


I like the fact he went back to the Founders for his research, makes me a lot more confident that he would nominate Originalist judges to the Supreme Court.


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Originally Posted by Redneck
Or, he's seeing the wind direction and sailing with the breeze...

(playing devil's advocate here)..



Trump is the one who had to shift in the wind.


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by Redneck
Or, he's seeing the wind direction and sailing with the breeze...

(playing devil's advocate here)..



Trump is the one who had to shift in the wind.


What does this mean exactly?



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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
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Or, he's seeing the wind direction and sailing with the breeze...

(playing devil's advocate here)..

Trump is the one who had to shift in the wind.

Trump only had to shift more... Carson's original position was that states could decide for themselves whether to ban scary black rifles, Trump was fully in favor of a national AWB/confiscation.

Cuz, you know... feds have jurisdiction to do anything they want to. It's a position very popular with most liberals.


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Originally Posted by Redneck
Or, he's seeing the wind direction and sailing with the breeze...

(playing devil's advocate here)..



Trump is the one who had to shift in the wind.


What does this mean exactly?



Travis


Trump has come a long ways in the 15 years since he wrote in The America We Deserve, which laid out his positions on a variety of subjects.

Here’s what he wrote about gun control:
It’s often argued that the American murder rate is high because guns are more available here than in other countries. After a tragedy like the massacre at Columbine High School, anyone could feel that it is too easy for Americans to get their hands on weapons. But nobody has a good solution. This is another issue where you see the extremes of the two existing major parties.

Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed. The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.

I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within seventy-two hours if a potential gun owner has a record.




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So his latest opinion differs from his previous opinion.

Wow. Won't find that in any other political candidate.



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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Carson is the smartest guy in the race. A lot of people down play him because he's not very experienced in governing and foreign affairs. But he's a fast learner to say the least. He's a good judge of the difference between right and wrong. He's got good common sense.

Yesterday I watched an interview with Trump. He came right out and said it....."even though the police got there quick, if a teacher or student had been carrying a weapon, they would have been able to stop it a lot faster and could have possibly saved some lives".

Too bad we can't follow Switzerland's lead.


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Yesterday I watched an interview with Trump. He came right out and said it....."even though the police got there quick, if a teacher or student had been carrying a weapon, they would have been able to stop it a lot faster and could have possibly saved some lives".


What's the old saying?

"Cops, just minutes away when seconds count."

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Guns is one of the issues that makes me uncomfortable about Carson; but I still like the guy and feel he would do a good job. He's smart enough to know where his bread is buttered and that gun control will sink any and all support he has.

At the same time, he's smart enough that I think he'll generally make good decisions as a president.

We could do WAAAAAY worse than Carson for President.

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Originally Posted by deflave
I like Carson.




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At least one candidate (him) seems to have an operational brain at times.

Geno

PS, I certainly don't agree with all of what he says but he may end up being one I support.


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Originally Posted by deflave
So his latest opinion differs from his previous opinion.

Wow. Won't find that in any other political candidate.



Travis



Try Romney...


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He's a surgeon, a good one, with some good ideas, not a national leader.
No leadership experience, DC and world wise politicians would eat him up.

Idaho had a Governor like that awhile back. Good guy, just no leadership experience, and it was a one term mistake.

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Originally Posted by 700LH
He's a surgeon, a good one, with some good ideas, not a national leader.
No leadership experience, DC and world wise politicians would eat him up.

Idaho had a Governor like that awhile back. Good guy, just no leadership experience, and it was a one term mistake.



Carson has served for years as one of the top directors at Johns Hopkins Hospital. In charge of a lot of top medical professionals.
And served on the boards of companies like Costco and Kellogg

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Originally Posted by 700LH
Cosco ain't Moscow

He'd be so far better than any of the Democrat candidates that it's not even funny. Can you imagine Hillary dealing with Russia - oh, wait, she did. How's that working out for us? How about Socialist Bernie Sanders? Or Joe Biden? That makes shudder just typing it...

Fully understand anybody not preferring him as their first, second or even third pick. But electing him WOULD send a huge message to the Republican establishment, and think of what we could get done domestically if we have both houses of Congress and a non-establishment (mostly) Conservative Republican as President?


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Didn't he recently reaffirm that he wants to ban semiautomatic firearms and that he and Al Sharpton see eye to eye on this and many issues?

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