Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters 62gr TTSX in 22-250AI doesnt expand

3 bullets three failures to expand.
62gr TTSX in my 22-250AI chrony'd at 3700+ fps
80yds coyote broadside point of shoulder
250 yds antelope 1/4 away in behind last rib out between front rib and shoulder.
100yd antelope neck shot.
neither antelope shots hit bone but did pass through tough neck meat or 18" of guts.
Im neither expecting nor desiring explosive expansion, and yes all three shots were fatal but NONE of the bullets showed ANY expansion!I did buy barnes for deep penetrationbut I might as well be using FMJ.
Any ideas on whats happening? Suggestions for new 22 hunting bullet?

Not my experience with that bullet and cartridge at all. I haven't shot a coyote with them, but several deer and an antelope. I couldn't be happier from what I've seen. And I run them a little slower even. I'd be interested in opinions on this as well.

What twist?

How did you recover the bullets? If you did not recover them, how do you know they did not expand?

I have had no problems with the 62 gr TTSX out of 223 and 22-250 when used on deer. All of them died as did your animals.

Might need a thread on, How To Autopsy Your Game In Order To Evaluate Bullet Performance.

Mike

1 in 10, no pictures sorry but 22 pin holes leaving the carcass, even the coyote had a small hole with very small splintering in the off side shoulder blade. These are GREAT for accuracy but i want SOME expansion.

I've seen quite a few deer with caliber size in/out and both in and out holes in the hide but very respectable damage on the inside.

The last one was a 270, six inch wide ribs edgewise up nead the spine, fist size hole in the on side scapula, quarter size hole in the off side scapula, fist size chunk out of the spine. how it didn't make bigger holes in the hide I have no guesses, but the hide was caliber size in, caliber size out. Bullet was a 110 TTSX

Last 22 caliber examples were caliber size in on one and in and out on the other with a 3 inch diameter hole through the shoulder muscle. Bullet was a TSX 53.

60 gr. Partition!-Muddy

You probably got expansion but the petals came off and the base of the bullet continued on through leaving a caliber sized exit hole. That's typical of TTSX's going fast. There was probably a big wound channel for the first few inches.

If I were using a .22 on antelope/deer sized game the TTSX is all I would use. There are other bullets I'd prefer to use on coyotes but I usually shoot them with what I've got in my hand at the time.

I'd suggest another bullet, thats more expansive.

If you don't understand how the mono works... then move onto something else.

While barnes are accurate enough, for pure accuracy thats the last place I'd look...

I've seen some small exits on dead barnes animals, never one that I thought failed to expand....in fact I can't recall loosing an animal with a barnes.

same here nukes deer like Thor's hammer

I would propose to you that the bullets DID expand, and expand as advertised.
Skin is elastic, and a .22 bullet expanded even to twice its diameter will theoretically give you a .44 cal hole....due to the elasticity of the skin,the hole will appear smaller. Dime sized or smaller exit is to be expected with that bullet..... Barnes will typically expand fully in the first 3-4 inches of flesh.


We have had this same 'argument' ad nauseum about Nosler Partitions "penciling on through "

They don't....


If that doesn't make you happy, time to switch!

Stop talking sense Poobs

Sorry.

I blew up.


Lost my head.....

I'll also say that 1-10" is likely not spinning them as they should be.

I've been saying for years that some of the problems folks have had with Barnes bullets is from them being not stabilized.

A bullet not hitting tip on ain't good for nothing.

I know lots don't buy into it, but I suggest you shoot a few critters with the same load in a 1-8" twist and get back to me.

Tom,

Glad somebody said it before I did. Have seen monos not expand, but not "tipped" monos, though anything's possible.

At some point I generally ask what the insides of the animal looked like--not the entrance and exit.

60 grain Partitions and 64 grain PowerPoints have caused rapid death for the whitetails that I've shot them with via 1-9" ROT 22-250, 1-9" ROT 223, and 1-10" ROT 223 WSSM.

I'd trust the 60 grain Partition to do what they're designed to do, expand violently from tip to partition and penetrate deeply from partition to base.

You were unable to evaluate the expansion of the three bullets because you did not recover them.

The Barnes TTX tipped bullet expands and causes extensive internal damage. Exit hole is normally kinda small, mainly because of petal edges are sharp. I have used them on over 80 animals including two trips to RSA. Only two have ever been recovered, one from a frontal spine shot on a Cape buffalo and one from a boar that went full length and was found in boar hock.

If the animal does not drop on the spot it will take a few extra yds for the blood trail to start, but you will get your animal. These bullets do work very well. If the op needs a large exit wound than go to an Interlock.

Here's how I evaluate performance and expansion...

.22-250AI 62gr TTSX 1:8