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Whilst not formalized yet, it appears that CMP will allow optics in Sporting rifle 4.5x32 max.

http://thecmp.org/2016-cmp-rifle-and-pistol-rule-changes/

March scopes are working on a CMP legal scope.

That will be nice for folks with vision issues for sure!

It's about time they did this. The military has only been using scopes on M16s and M4s for about 20 years. Hopefully the NRA will follow suit with match rifles.

Personally I wonder if putting a scope on an AR15, high enough to clear the iron sights, might make it difficult to get a good cheek position.

The rule change that I like is the one that eliminates alibi strings in rapid fire for equipment malfunctions. I've never had an alibi (except for pit service etc.) and this will encourage shooters to keep their stuff in good condition.

I'd imagine a FX-2 4x32 with turrets would be all you'd need, or am I missing something? Would the extra .5x matter?

I'd want parallax adjustment, target turrets and a zero stop.

Didn't even think of those things .... but to me either the front post dances around the black dot or the cross hairs will do it

A lot of suggestions from the top shooters have been passed along to Shiraz Bilolia, North and South American distributor for March scopes. His company is Bullets.com or Grizzly. Shiraz is a prominent FClass shooter also. Shiraz is working with March on this.

Butch, if you are talking to them, tell them a fixed power scope is fine. No need for adj magnification at such low powers.

The reason for a scope sight in CMP matches is NOT magnification (unless you want to read mirage, in which case you would need about 20X).

The reason is putting the front sight and the target in the same focal plane. Magnification is basically unimportant.

It will be a fixed power and he is visiting with some of the top shooters about this. You need to get it right the first time.
The great thing about the March, other than the ED quality glass, is the absolute tracking on windage and elevation. Not like 99% of the other brands.

The rules are made by old guys.

The rules have been evolving in CMP and High Power to keep old guys more competitive against young guys. Who'd a thunk it.

No, I think the rules are just moving with the reality of technology.

Don't "complain" that CMP rules are making old farts more competitive, complain (if you must) that technology is making everyone more competitive. I'm sure there were people that complained that the M14 made life too easy on left handers.

There are a lot more old guys, so it stands to reason.

That and it seems to open the door to get a lot more folks in the door as (IMHO) now many folks are equipped to play. Guys/gals can bring out their M-4-ish and play. May not be competative, but will welcome more folks to try and if they like what they're doing they may take the plunge. Much more so with these rule changes than before them, as there aren't nearly the number of guys with A2 configured rifles.

The downside is those that have to keep up with the rules to be competitive, its going to cost money. 20K rounds of 223 a year cost us money to start with...

This would cost us more.

I really wished in one way, that there would remain an irons only division... but I"m old....

It seems the NRA is keeping service rifle irons only (there is a "tactical rifle where optics are welcome).

I think the comment time has expired, next up should be approval or disapproval.

Guess I didn't read well enough, must be NRA match rifle rules change possibly then.

Actually it would make more sense to use it as service rifle rules rather than match, due to whats being used in the field, but I digress.

The rule change is for CMP (leg matches only). NRA would not change. But there is an optics class or tactical class for NRA matches now. CMP would be limited to 4.5 x. Don't think there is a power limit for NRA

well if its for leg only, thats weird, cause CMP hosts a myriad of other matches.

And if for leg, one would be forced to buy and shoot optics because you always take every advantage you can, such that its ability vs ability and not ability vs equipment.